RIA Apr 24-26 2015 Auction - Page 2

TheRomanhistorian · 04-26-2015, 12:33 PM

Very nice, Norm!

Alas, I did not win myself a 3rd Webley .455 Mk I (N).

alvin · 04-26-2015, 01:55 PM

That 20-shot Cone Hammer sold $45000 !!!! BP included will be $51750 !!!!

Originally, I was a little bit upset because no one called me (I registered phone bid, in case other people are on vacation and forgot it). Not sure why they did not call me, probably I missed the call while I was walking outside?? If it's $12K and I missed it, that would be very regretful. The calling history did not show any missing calls though.

When I arrived home, first thing was checking the result. Now, I feel much better.

sheepherder · 04-27-2015, 09:59 PM

Well, I didn't win the two handguns I bid on in the RIA auction, but today I did win two separate auctions on GB for the same two handguns [the same generically] for within $5 of the price I would have paid GB if my lowball bids had been accepted and I paid by CC [17 1/2%], so I am not unhappy.

I would not have been in such a rush but I found out a couple weeks ago that the owner of my LGS/FFL receiver is cutting back his hours and taking off more time for fishing, hunting, family. When I was on the way to the PO to mail one of the MO's today, I saw a realtor hammering in a big 'For Sale' sign in the front lawn.

There are only two gunshops left locally. If this one closes I will have a long drive to pick up GB purchased handguns. Or any guns for that matter.

I'm getting too old for this anyway. I'm going to start looking for a retirement community where you have your own little bungalow and there is a big community center where all the old fogies can go and play cards, watch TV, just sit & whine, etc. Where there's a nurse on site, an activities director, a cook, maybe some other straphangers. I'll live out my days watching the 456 reruns of the 20 year run of 'Law & Order' in peace.

That sounds wonderful.

cirelaw · 04-27-2015, 10:13 PM

Make sure you have your computer!!

alvin · 04-27-2015, 10:49 PM

C96 price is very hard to predict. The only C96 good buy in this RIAC session is that small ring carbine. Winner saved at least a couple of thousand dollars. The very expensive one is that 20-shot conehammer. Two extremes. Say, 20CH is still rare so it's hard to predict, normal. But common one could be hard to predict too -- back a few months ago, a short barrel reworked Red 9 sold $9000 from Julia (BP included will be over $10K). This type of rework is usually under $2000 regardless of condition, that particular one sold $9000 probably due to it has a Norwegian privatization release stamp... if it's not supposed being a discount point, how could it increase value...

m1903a3 · 04-27-2015, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norme

Hi Rich, I'll post it when I get it. In the mean time, here's a clue.
Regards, Norm

That's an odd looking Navy, Norm. 😀

Norme · 04-28-2015, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m1903a3

That's an odd looking Navy, Norm. 😀

Hi Mike, As one can tell from my avatar, I don't just collect Navies.
Best regards, Norm

hayhugh · 04-28-2015, 12:18 PM

Ya Norm, nice clock!............

Ben M. · 04-28-2015, 02:09 PM

this? http://www.rockislandauction.com/vie...aid/64/lid/804

Norme · 04-28-2015, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben M.

this? http://www.rockislandauction.com/vie...aid/64/lid/804

Hi Ben, Correct! It's a very rare variation with less than 100 known to exist, almost all of them in France. This one is the first I've ever seen on this side of the Atlantic.
Regards, Norm

Mac Cat · 04-28-2015, 03:19 PM

Premium collection of Lugers, I thought. Way over my budget, but thanks for the heads-up !!! I wish the catalog was downloadable - it was nicely laid out, but only for viewing.

sheepherder · 04-28-2015, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norme

It's a very rare variation with less than 100 known to exist, almost all of them in France.

Very cool!

Ben M. · 04-29-2015, 01:06 PM

is star the way to know? star on krigoffs meant rejected?

guns3545 · 04-29-2015, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben M.

is star the way to know? star on krigoffs meant rejected?

The five pointed star is the French occupation stamp. You also see them on some P.38s.

Really nothing much to do with the LWaA marking rejected guns with the five pointed star.

Or for that matter Krieghoff internal inspectors accepting them with the six-pointed star which they used for a while.

John

cirelaw · 04-30-2015, 01:29 PM

I noticed there were over 3400 in the luger section. I also noticed prices realized seemed low! Is this because the were so many choices. It seems the ones that were rare or pretty met their expected price range. A definite buyers market! To sell your pretty luger I would seek alternate avenues!! The prices realized is an eye opener! Eric

sheepherder · 04-30-2015, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cirelaw

I also noticed prices realized were low!

Not in the auctions I bid on.

cirelaw · 04-30-2015, 01:52 PM

Rich, You do have a great eye and good taste! Found this on the star proof! It was for rejection! Tks as always. Eric

Vlim · 04-30-2015, 02:49 PM

Eric, under French occupation, the star marking replaced the Eagle/N commercial proof marking. It is quite easy to understand that the French occupation forces saw no need for a nazi eagle on their pistols

I picked up this little beauty for a lot less: 1981 Mauser .38 special revolver

cirelaw · 04-30-2015, 03:04 PM

Thank You mon amie! Did the star have difference as it applied only to Krieghoff! In other words the star was not a rejection to any other brand?

Vlim · 04-30-2015, 03:47 PM

It depends on whatever meaning a company gave to a marking. These punches are relatively standard items and pretty common in every factory workshop, so they are available.

I remember that Mauser used a heart shaped punch to identify a certain batch of frames in the 1970s. In other words, they used what they had available for whatever purpose they needed

04-26-2015, 12:33 PM	#21
TheRomanhistorian User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 301 Thanks: 170 Thanked 88 Times in 64 Posts	Very nice, Norm! Alas, I did not win myself a 3rd Webley .455 Mk I (N). __________________ Michael Nos morituri te salutant - Supposed saying of the gladiators to the emperor ('We, who are about to die, salute you.') 'We are the lantern bearers, my friend; for us to keep something burning, to carry what light we can forward into the darkness and the wind' - From Rosemary Sutcliff's The Lantern Bearers

04-27-2015, 09:59 PM	#23
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,181 Thanks: 1,398 Thanked 4,438 Times in 2,327 Posts	Well, I didn't win the two handguns I bid on in the RIA auction, but today I did win two separate auctions on GB for the same two handguns [the same generically] for within $5 of the price I would have paid GB if my lowball bids had been accepted and I paid by CC [17 1/2%], so I am not unhappy. I would not have been in such a rush but I found out a couple weeks ago that the owner of my LGS/FFL receiver is cutting back his hours and taking off more time for fishing, hunting, family. When I was on the way to the PO to mail one of the MO's today, I saw a realtor hammering in a big 'For Sale' sign in the front lawn. There are only two gunshops left locally. If this one closes I will have a long drive to pick up GB purchased handguns. Or any guns for that matter. I'm getting too old for this anyway. I'm going to start looking for a retirement community where you have your own little bungalow and there is a big community center where all the old fogies can go and play cards, watch TV, just sit & whine, etc. Where there's a nurse on site, an activities director, a cook, maybe some other straphangers. I'll live out my days watching the 456 reruns of the 20 year run of 'Law & Order' in peace. That sounds wonderful. __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

04-30-2015, 01:52 PM	#37
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Rich, You do have a great eye and good taste! Found this on the star proof! It was for rejection! Tks as always. Eric Attached Thumbnails

04-30-2015, 02:49 PM	#38
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,031 Thanks: 1,018 Thanked 3,873 Times in 1,184 Posts	Eric, under French occupation, the star marking replaced the Eagle/N commercial proof marking. It is quite easy to understand that the French occupation forces saw no need for a nazi eagle on their pistols I picked up this little beauty for a lot less: 1981 Mauser .38 special revolver Attached Thumbnails

04-26-2015, 01:55 PM	#22
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	That 20-shot Cone Hammer sold $45000 !!!! BP included will be $51750 !!!! Originally, I was a little bit upset because no one called me (I registered phone bid, in case other people are on vacation and forgot it). Not sure why they did not call me, probably I missed the call while I was walking outside?? If it's $12K and I missed it, that would be very regretful. The calling history did not show any missing calls though. When I arrived home, first thing was checking the result. Now, I feel much better.

04-27-2015, 10:13 PM	#24
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Make sure you have your computer!!

04-27-2015, 10:49 PM	#25
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	C96 price is very hard to predict. The only C96 good buy in this RIAC session is that small ring carbine. Winner saved at least a couple of thousand dollars. The very expensive one is that 20-shot conehammer. Two extremes. Say, 20CH is still rare so it's hard to predict, normal. But common one could be hard to predict too -- back a few months ago, a short barrel reworked Red 9 sold $9000 from Julia (BP included will be over $10K). This type of rework is usually under $2000 regardless of condition, that particular one sold $9000 probably due to it has a Norwegian privatization release stamp... if it's not supposed being a discount point, how could it increase value...

04-28-2015, 12:18 PM	#28
hayhugh User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Florida/Penna Posts: 882 Thanks: 847 Thanked 507 Times in 270 Posts	Ya Norm, nice clock!............

04-28-2015, 02:09 PM	#29
Ben M. User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Retired to Naples, FL. Posts: 474 Thanks: 82 Thanked 117 Times in 79 Posts	this? http://www.rockislandauction.com/vie...aid/64/lid/804

04-28-2015, 03:19 PM	#31
Mac Cat Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 670 Thanks: 2,006 Thanked 542 Times in 292 Posts	Premium collection of Lugers, I thought. Way over my budget, but thanks for the heads-up !!! I wish the catalog was downloadable - it was nicely laid out, but only for viewing.

04-29-2015, 01:06 PM	#33
Ben M. User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Retired to Naples, FL. Posts: 474 Thanks: 82 Thanked 117 Times in 79 Posts	is star the way to know? star on krigoffs meant rejected?

04-30-2015, 01:29 PM	#35
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	I noticed there were over 3400 in the luger section. I also noticed prices realized seemed low! Is this because the were so many choices. It seems the ones that were rare or pretty met their expected price range. A definite buyers market! To sell your pretty luger I would seek alternate avenues!! The prices realized is an eye opener! Eric

04-30-2015, 03:04 PM	#39
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Thank You mon amie! Did the star have difference as it applied only to Krieghoff! In other words the star was not a rejection to any other brand?

04-30-2015, 03:47 PM	#40
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,031 Thanks: 1,018 Thanked 3,873 Times in 1,184 Posts	It depends on whatever meaning a company gave to a marking. These punches are relatively standard items and pretty common in every factory workshop, so they are available. I remember that Mauser used a heart shaped punch to identify a certain batch of frames in the 1970s. In other words, they used what they had available for whatever purpose they needed