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Unread 09-04-2014, 03:58 AM   #1
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Rare World War I German DWM Model 1914 Artillery Luger Pistol with Extremely Rare Detachable Front and Rear "Radium" Night Sights with a Matching Magazine
est. $8,500-$13,000!!

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Description: This is an excellent example of a WWI DWM Artillery Luger pistol dated 1917, that has been fitted with an ultra rare set of original WWI prototype "radium" clip-on night sights. These sights were intended to allow the soldier to engage targets at night and have been seen on various configurations of GEW rifles. The unique aspect of this example is that it has the complete detachable "rear sight" which is usually missing. A similar set of sights is pictured on page 254 of the book "Luger Holsters and Accessories" by Bender. The front sight is secured to the barrel by a small band that fits around the barrel, which contains a small circular vial of Radium (which has depleted over the years). The rear sight aperture is made up of two sheet metal stampings that also contain some kind of luminous material that is seen through a small slit, mounted on each side of the rear sight aperture. This rear sight attachment is held on by two small locking screws, that engage the rear sight. The Luger is a standard DWM 1914 Artillery Model (dated 1917) that has the "DWM" monogram on the front toggle. The right side of the barrel extension has the "Crown/Gothic letter" military acceptance proofs next to the "Imperial Eagle" firing proof. These same proofs are also on the side and underside of the barrel. It has the full serial number "8931h" on the front of the frame with "8913" on the barrel and barrel extension and the last two digits "31" numbered on the various small parts. It has the standard extractor and safety markings with the correct artillery style tangent rear sight graduated from 1-8 (100-800) meters. The Luger is complete with one matching nickel plated magazine with a wooden base marked "8913/h".
Condition: Excellent with 97% of the original blue finish overall with minor high spot wear. The various small parts retain 60% of their original straw colors mostly in the protected areas. The grips are also in excellent condition with distinct checkering on both sides. Mechanically excellent. It has matching numbers on the various parts to include the magazine as noted. Sights are excellent.
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Rare Prototype DWM 1902 "Danzig Test Luger"


Estimated $25,000-$40,000!!!

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Description: This is an excellent example of a very rare original 1902 Danzig Test Luger as produced by the DWM factory. It is theorized that these pistols were produced for the early Imperial German Army tests at the time the Luger pistol was being considered for acceptance. There were approximately 50-100 of this model actually produced and they fall into a generally accepted serial number range of 22,300-22,400 with this one being produced just before the early serial number. These pistol have all the early characteristics of the 1902 design with the dished toggles with toggle lock on the right side, flat recessed breechblock, and grip safety. This example is in the scarce 7.65mm Luger caliber. There are no actual factory markings on these Lugers (not even the DWM Logo) except for a small Script letter "D" proof indicating acceptance by the Danzig Arsenal. This proof and the serial number range are the only ways to authenticate these scarce Lugers. On this example the script letter "D" proof is located on the left side of the barrel extension. These pistols were numbered in the commercial manner with the full serial number (22244) on the frame and underside of the barrel with the last 2-3 digits of the serial number on the various smaller parts. The small components are finished in straw, and the pistol is fitted with checkered walnut grips.
Condition: Excellent with 95% plus of the original blue finish and 85% of the straw colors overall. The walnut grips are excellent with nice distinct checkering with wear across the tops and a few minor handling marks. Mechanically excellent. An excellent example of a very rare and scarce 1902 Danzig Test Luger pistol with all matching numbers.
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DWM Luger Model 1902 Carbine Rig Complete with Matching Shoulder Stock and Rare Original Double Compartment Leather Carrying Case
Estimated $37,500-$55,000!!!

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Description: This is one of the finest examples of a DWM Model 1902 Luger Carbine that we have ever offered for auction. This example is in exceptional condition that shows very minor handling marks and is complete with an original, unaltered DWM factory, matching numbered, walnut shoulder stock and rare leather carrying case. These carbines were an early attempt by DWM to a produce a light weight rifle substitute, to compete specifically with the Mauser Broomhandle carbines as well as all the other stocked pistols being produced in Europe at this time. There were only a total of 2500 of this model ever produced in two serial number blocks with this specific pistol being in the later part of the second block of serial numbers, of which only 1400 total were made. The unique feature of this pistol is that they all have a 11 3/4 inch barrel, with the DWM factory hanger on the front end of the frame, that holds the small walnut forend which is fitted with a small spring accelerator mechanism inside. This small spring mechanism is necessary in functioning the carbine during the cycling phase, by helping to return the barrel/upper receiver into battery due to the additional weight of the longer barrel. All these 1902 Luger carbines have all the rare and desirable early features such as: the long old style frame, flat mainspring, grip safety, dished toggles with toggle lock on the right side, and the recessed/flat breech bolt with the small spring extractor. The top of the chamber is blank and the front toggle has the DWM logo for "Deutsche Waffen und Munitions Fabriken". The full serial number (24278) is correctly marked on the underside of the frame extension, and the underside of the barrel. Also on the underside of the barrel in front of the rear sight base is the "Crown over B, U and G" proofmarks over "122,23". The left side of the barrel extension/upper receiver is correctly marked with the "Crown over B and U" proofs. The forend, inside the cutout for the frame extension is correctly numbered (278) which matches the pistol. The last two digits of the serial number (78) are correctly marked on the various small parts. The grips are unnumbered, however both are marked with a small "*" asterisk proof, on the back side. The stock is completely original and has a black horn butt plate, lower sling swivel with an original attaching iron that is numbered "278" on top. The magazine has a nickel plated body with the correct wood base and marked with only a single small ordnance bomb type proof. These pistols all have a rust blued finish with a straw color on the various small parts. As noted above, this Luger Carbine is complete with one of the very rare all leather, double compartment carrying cases that were specifically made to hold the Luger and stock assembly. These leather cases were all made in the early 1900s and later phased out because DWM stopped making the Luger carbines. Surviving examples are very rare today as the case actually took all the wear and tear to preserve the Luger and stock assembly. Both ends of the case are fitted with a lid, that opens up, with the top half of the case or upper compartment would hold the complete luger pistol and forend with the lower compartment holding the complete stock assembly. One lid or end cover is stamped with the full serial number "24278" of the Luger pistol, along with a large script letter "L" on the side of the case. Although this leather case does not have a specific retailers stamp, it is identical to examples sold and distributed by "Von Lengerke and Antoine". They were the largest Chicago retailers of firearms at the turn of the century in Chicago and later this company was sold to Abercrombie and Fitch in 1928.
Condition: Excellent plus with 98% plus of the original blue finish overall with some barely noticeable carrying case wear. The various small parts all retain 95% of their original straw colors with just a hint of wear on the edges and high spots with most of the wear on the face of the trigger. The grips, stock and forend are all excellent with a beautiful light brown matching color with excellent sharp checkering on the stock, forend and grips, with a small light pressure dent directly behind the magazine release button. The stock shows only a couple very minor light handling marks. This beautiful example of a DWM 1902 Luger carbine has all matching parts to include the original shoulder stock. The leather carrying case is also excellent, with a nice medium brown color overall with some light scuffs on the upper side of the case and the edges and corners of the lid or end covers. The straps are showing age cracking and flaking of the leather where they actually are inserted into the latches or buckles. One of the leather straps have broken. The stitching is tight overall, except for one of the lids or end covers that shows slightly more leather scuffing, with some stitching just starting to fray slightly, with a couple of the strap retainers on the lids separated. An exceptionally high condition all original 1902 Luger Carbine rig, one of the best we have ever offered at auction.
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Bulgarian 7-Shot "Georg Luger" Marked Prototype Baby Luger
Estimated $65,000 to $95,000!!! "Ouch"

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Description: This is a beautiful, all original and unaltered example of a super rare 7-shot, "Baby Luger" pistol. These have always been highly sought after by all Luger collectors, because of their uniqueness and association with Georg Luger. This rare pistol has the correct letter "B" suffix in the serial number, denoting it as a prototype Luger made personally by, or under the direct supervision of Georg Luger, and is possibly the "only" known example with the 3 1/4 inch length barrel. This rare pistol has an original "Bulgarian crest" over the chamber and it is believed that this specific pistol was made expressly by Georg Luger as a gift in connection with the Bulgarian Luger contracts. This is one of three original 7-shot "Baby Lugers" that are known to exist in the world today, with this example being the finest known example. It has the original and correct, intertwined "GL" monogram, for "Georg Luger" stamped on the back side of the rear toggle. To shorten the overall length of the frame during the manufacturing process, the original grip straps were cut and welded back together by the DWM factory, with the back side of the front grip strap also featuring a small reinforcing patch, obviously to strengthen the front grip strap, which was also done by the DWM factory. This is why these pistols were personally built by Georg Luger. The original matching numbered grips were also cut in two in the center and then spliced back together to fit the shorter frame. The workmanship on both areas is impeccable, as only could be performed by the DWM factory. This exceptional Luger has an original "7-Shot" magazine manufactured specifically for this pistol and is not a cut-down longer magazine. This Luger is such a historically significantly, example of a rare 7-shot "Baby Luger" pistol, it was featured on the cover and on four pages (58 through 61) of "Luger: The Multi-National Pistol", by Ellis/Kenyon. Writer is very familiar with this truly historical and extremely rare prototype Luger pistol and believes it to be next in line of importance to the 45 Luger.
Condition: Excellent. The pistol retains 97% original blue finish. The small components retain 85% original straw color. The grips are also excellent with some light wear and a few nicks in the otherwise crisp checkering, and showing a beautiful wood grain. The magazine is excellent. The mechanics are crisp and all the numbered parts match. This rare and spectacular pistol is certainly a "One of a Kind" Luger, that is such a historically significant and important weapon it would be the center piece of any advanced Luger or military collection, certainly for the discriminating high-end collector.
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The Finest Known DWM Model 1902 American Eagle "Fat Barrel" Luger Pistol
est. $20-40,000!!!

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Description: This is the finest known example of a very desirable early Model 1902 "American Eagle" Luger pistol that is in almost like new condition. These are rare with the fat barrel, as only 600-700 were ever produced, in total for commercial sales in the United States. This model was a continuation of the earlier 1902 commercial Luger however these were specifically intended for the U.S. market. This pistol has the short old style frame with leaf springs and no stock lug, recessed breechblock, dished toggles with toggle lock and grip safety. The barrel extension is also the short old model with the top of the chamber area roll marked with the prominent "American Eagle" crest, with the front toggle correctly marked with the "DWM" logo. These are serial numbered in the commercial manner with the full serial number (22745) on the front of the frame, and underside of the barrel, with the partial serial number "45" on the various small parts. Inside the front frame recess and underside of the barrel extension there is the typical small circled triangle proof. This example has the correct polished lower safety area that is unmarked, and has the correct bright polished old style extractor. This Luger is complete with an original unmarked, nickel plated magazine body with wooden base, marked length wise in script, "Cal. 9m/m".
Condition: Near new with 99% plus original condition with only barely noticeable hints of minor edge wear. The various small parts retain 98% plus of their bright original straw colors. The grips are in exceptional condition with nice sharp checkering on both sides. Mechanically excellent. This is the finest 1902 Fat Barrel Luger Pistol known!
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Rare Imperial German 1906 DWM Navy Luger with Double Magazine Pouch and Matching Serialized Navy Board Stock
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Description: This is a an exceptional example of what has been termed, a first issue altered, Model 1906 Imperial German Navy Luger rig. These Navy Lugers have always been highly sought after by collectors because of their uniqueness and limited production numbers. These first issue/altered models were ones that were subsequently reworked by having their safety areas altered so that the safety markings were located in the upper position of the rear frame area, so that they would have the same markings and function that was eventually adopted for all standard Military Lugers. This alteration was performed by both DWM and the Navy Dockyards in a very professional manner. The usual procedures was that the original, lower safety markings and frame areas were polished out with the word "GESICHERT" remarked in the upper position. This is even rarer in that it still retains its original serial numbered, matching Navy stock. The chamber is blank with the script "DWM" logo on the front toggle. The left side of the barrel extension is marked with the double "Crown/M" Navy acceptance proofs and one "Crown" acceptance proof with the same latter proof on the left side of the breechblock. The underside of the barrel is stamped with a single "Crown/M" acceptance proof and full serial number. It has the standard military style numbering with the full number on the major parts with the partial number "10" on the various smaller components. It has the standard extractor markings of "GELADEN". It is fitted with the standard front sight with the unique sliding, two-position, Navy rear sight marked with "100" and "200". This Luger has one original nickel plated magazine with an original base with the concentric circles on each end as only found on Navy Luger. The base is marked with a "Crown/M" Naval proof, and serial number 2480, that was restamped (by Navy armorers) with number "2910". As noted this excellent Navy Luger Rig is complete with the matching attaching iron, walnut board stock that has the same double "Crown/M" navy proofs on the back side, over the stock disc, which is unit/property stamped "W.W. 1831" which is also engraved on the back strap of the pistol. With an original Navy holster that is marked inside: "LOH SOHNE/ACT. GES./BERLIN", an original leather double magazine pouch and the shoulder straps.
Condition: Extremely fine with 90% plus of the original blue finish with wear on the edges and high spots. The grips are both very fine with nice distinct checkering on both sides. This example has all matching numbers to include the attaching iron except the magazine, which was restamped as noted above. The Navy stock is very fine with nice clear, sharp proofs with some minor handling marks. The holster and double magazine pouch are both very good plus with nice tight stitching and a lightly used look to the leather showing fading of the black color overall. The shoulder straps are in very good condition showing wear and age cracking but still intact. A very rare example of an all matching DWM Model 1906 Navy Luger Rig.
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Description: This is a very unusual, early test or trials semi-automatic pistol. The pistol is a semi-automatic, blow back design that is chambered for a .30 cal type pistol cartridge, that maybe similar to the 7.63 mm or Mauser cartridge. The pistol is complete and it totally in the white with no markings or proof marks anywhere. It has a very large frame and grip area with a set of black hard plastic grips with unusual square checkering on the sides. It has a one-piece frame/barrel extension with a removable side plate to access the internal parts. It is fitted with a 5 inch barrel that has a very similar profile to a standard luger pistol. The barrel has the inverted "V" front sight and a simple sheet metal rear sight attached to the rear of the frame. It is a single safety lever on the left side with a slide hold open lock on the right sides, and it has no magazine hold open device inside. The pistol is complete with one original/correct, single stack magazine with a lanyard loop on the underside of the base plate and the magazine looks like it would hold approximately 10 rounds.
Condition: Very fine "in the white" bright metal. The grips are in fine condition showing wear along the edges with nice sharp checkering in the center of the grips.
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Time to step up to the plate and buy 3 or 4 of them.

You know - you can't take the money with you.
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how much for the whole thing ?? lordy lordy, they are nice.........
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Don't spend your money too quick! Sturgess collection sells in October in Julia auction. Catalog just came out online....WOW!!
Take a look at these jewels
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The Sturgess collection is outstanding, but there are some exceptional pieces in the RIA offering as well. It will be interesting to see what some of the realized prices will be. The LP08 with Sudicatis night sights and the 1913 Commercial are of particular interest to me. These guns rarely come up for sale so it is difficult to establish a market value on them.
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The pistol has been discussed here before.
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http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=32381

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Nambu Prototype?

I'm sure probably not. But, it is sort of "Nambuesque". Some of you may have seen this on Gunbroker, but most likely not. It was very vaguely listed. Quite large, at 10 5/8" long, 6 1/2" tall. Barrel looks like that of a Luger, and is about .30 caliber. .30 Luger? Magazine is too short, for 7.62 Tokarev. Extremely well made, and executed. Finished "in the white". Marked on the inside of the magazine well, D. Lapanne 1940. It's so unique, I had to have it. Fortunately, nobody else bid. Machinist/gunsmith special? Prototype? Any ideas?
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Pistol is chambered in .30 Luger. Round chambers, extracts, and ejects. Pulled a bullet, and the firing pin strikes center, and primer went bang. It is a blowback design, with a massive buffer spring, around the base of the mainspring. Striker/hammer spring is a plunger affair in the grip frame, similar a 1911. It gets curiouser, and curiouser
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Don't spend your money too quick! Sturgess collection sells in October in Julia auction. Catalog just came out online....WOW!!
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ERFURT 1914 ARTILLERY CHROME PLATED LUGER BELIEVED TO BE FROM HERMANN GORING
SN 7307. Cal. 9mm. 8″ Artillery bbl with fine tune front sight and matching numbered sight blade. Fine tune multi-position rear sight. Full SN on bottom of bbl. Imperial proof on left. “1914″ date above chamber. Crown/ERFURT on center toggle link. Full SN on left receiver. Imperial proofs on right receiver. Full SN on front of frame. Numbered parts are matching down to the firing pin and the matching numbered checkered walnut grips. Imperial proof on front of trigger guard. Non-factory plated finish on all metal parts (chrome, nickel or platinum?). Such plating was popular with both Germans who were issued the guns, and GIs that brought them home. Wood bottom mag with orig number “61″ has had 4-digit SN added to match gun. In a brown leather “A.DAHL/BAARMEN” 1915 Luger Artillery holster. With genuine Eagle/2 proofed Kreighoff takedown tool (this adds credibility to this story as Krieghoff takedown tools are extremely rare, and Goring happened to have owned the Krieghoff Factory). Excellent orig cleaning rod with a “B” engraved on side of knob. With orig travel orders from Mr. Bernard Schulingkamp in connection with war crimes matters after the war and Mr. Schulingkamp’s capture paper listing this Luger and stating “from Hermann Goering” on capture paper. CONDITION: Very fine, retaining 99% non-factory plating. Grips are lightly worn, retaining orig color with nice wood grain. Bore is worn with pitting. Mag is very good with some scattered pitting on body and wear on wood bottom. Holster is very good with normal wear and flaking. Top of closure strap has torn off. Rod and tool are excellent. 4-51337 BWS59 (8,000-12,000) –
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UNIQUE AND IMPORTANT BABY LUGER SERIAL NUMBER 4.

SN 4. Cal. 9mm Kurtz. 3-7/8″ bbl with SN on bottom. Toggle assembly is unmarked and unnumbered, as is receiver and small parts. Frame has SN on front. Unique serrated sliding safety catch, similar to the Borchardt pistol’s. No hold open. No grip safety. Checkered walnut grips. Right grip “S” stamped on back. Left grip has matching “4″ on back. Hand made prototype wood bottom mag with plain wood bottom. Button is missing from follower. Unique pocket tool room prototype pocket pistol with much evidence of hand working and that fitting shares no parts with a full size Luger except for the grip screws. Believed to have been made around 1925-6 by DWM after Georg Luger’s death in an attempt by DWM to enter the low price pocket pistol market that was then burgeoning in Germany. This gun, the only known genuine original example, is featured on p. 1640 of Borchardt & Luger Automatic Pistols by Joachim Gortz and Dr. Geoffrey Sturgess and is also illustrated in Kenyon, Lugers at Random. Accompanied by archival material including personal correspondence and images pertaining to the history, design and mfg of the “Baby” from August Weiss, retired Works MGR for DWM, to Carl Wilson. Also a copy of Shooting Sports Magazine dated Sept,1962, which features on its cover the “Worlds Rarest Luger”. PROVENANCE: Collections of Carl Wilson, Pat Redmond; Collection of Dr. Geoffrey Sturgess. CONDITION: Excellent, retaining 95% orig blue with normal wear to sharp edges and corners. Some fading on chamber and top of toggles. Orig straw is 60%. Grips are lightly worn and oil soaked with some wood grain still visible. Mag has chips on wood bottom and scattered pitting on body. Bore is sharp with light wear. Mechanics are excellent. 4-52754 BWS19 ($50,000-$100,000)
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My drool-bucket is on overtime...
I filled several buckets... this collection is insane I have a feeling that a lot of foreign investors will gullp up these beauties for their safes
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