April 2003 Phoenix Gun Show

Frank · 04-06-2003, 10:20 AM

This was beyond a doubt the worst gun show I have attended in Phoenix. Intermingled among the jewelry, crystal, candy, jerky, patriotic shirts, patriotic gizmos, and the like, there were a few guns. I did see a very nice C-Block byf 42 with Bakelite Grips and a plastic bottom magazine, with a so-so holster for $1300. I also saw a pretty nice byf 44 Dual Tone P.38 for $695 (sorry Orv, I couldn't get a number as the buyer was not going to let me look). And that's about the end of that story. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" />

Thor · 04-06-2003, 10:45 AM

Seems like a trend Frank, but then occassionally you hear about some killer show that has tons of Lugers, but I always miss those. A real refreshing time to go back to Ralph's to see those 1600 Lugers in one place. I understand from the rumor mill that Nancy is picking the "date" for WOL 2003.

Frank · 04-06-2003, 03:30 PM

Thor, I talked to RES last week and he didn't mention anything about WOL. I really think he just wanted to brag about some Lugers he picked up in Reno!!!

I'll let you know if I do hear any information!

Pete Ebbink · 04-06-2003, 09:56 PM

Hello Frank,

Next time to visit with RES, have him show you the Swiss luger he picked up at Reno. It came from Bern and has a fixed .22 cal. barrel in 6" length...and the toggle assembly is not an Erma unit, but a Bern W+F stamped unit.

Your AZ show sounds like most CA-State shows. More non-gun junk than any tables with guns...

Driving to Reno (4 hours) and Las Vegas (12 hours) is my only hope of a decent show...

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

lugerholsterrepair · 04-08-2003, 01:39 AM

Frank, Are you talking about the crossroads show there with three big buildings? The one at the fairgrounds? If so it must have really deterioriated. Jerry Burney

Frank · 04-08-2003, 10:29 AM

Jerry, that's the one!! I went to the December Show and that one was pretty good. The February Show wasn't too bad, but this show was a real loser!! They had a good turn out on Saturday, so I don't understand the lack of gun stuff at a gun show!!!

Pete, I'll try to see RES late this week or early nexy week.

G.T. · 04-08-2003, 09:06 PM

Hi Frank! I'm with you! I saw the same guns as did you... and my conclusion is that... I'm getting too damn old to walk four or five miles to see one marginally collectable pistol!!! I am beginning to think these SW gun shows aren't for me! Till...later...GT

Thor · 04-08-2003, 09:11 PM

What you Phoenix guys need a is a GUN SHOW SCOUT! Have one guy (picked by straws or take turns) He makes a quick pass and calls you other guys on the cell phone! THUMBS UP OR DOWN!

G.T. · 04-08-2003, 09:28 PM

Hi Ted! You're right! They used to call them kids!!! My son and daughter grew up at gun shows, they always knew where the neat stuff was, I scored a lot of nice stuff with my kids scouting it out... bad thing about that is... now they think it theirs!! Oh well, thats what wills are for! Nice to hear from you Ted! Hope all is well! till...later...GT

04-06-2003, 10:20 AM	#1
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	April 2003 Phoenix Gun Show This was beyond a doubt the worst gun show I have attended in Phoenix. Intermingled among the jewelry, crystal, candy, jerky, patriotic shirts, patriotic gizmos, and the like, there were a few guns. I did see a very nice C-Block byf 42 with Bakelite Grips and a plastic bottom magazine, with a so-so holster for $1300. I also saw a pretty nice byf 44 Dual Tone P.38 for $695 (sorry Orv, I couldn't get a number as the buyer was not going to let me look). And that's about the end of that story. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" />

04-06-2003, 10:45 AM	#2
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Seems like a trend Frank, but then occassionally you hear about some killer show that has tons of Lugers, but I always miss those. A real refreshing time to go back to Ralph's to see those 1600 Lugers in one place. I understand from the rumor mill that Nancy is picking the "date" for WOL 2003. __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

04-08-2003, 01:39 AM	#5
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,760 Thanks: 4,848 Thanked 3,098 Times in 1,426 Posts	Frank, Are you talking about the crossroads show there with three big buildings? The one at the fairgrounds? If so it must have really deterioriated. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

04-08-2003, 09:11 PM	#8
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	What you Phoenix guys need a is a GUN SHOW SCOUT! Have one guy (picked by straws or take turns) He makes a quick pass and calls you other guys on the cell phone! THUMBS UP OR DOWN! __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

04-06-2003, 03:30 PM	#3
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Thor, I talked to RES last week and he didn't mention anything about WOL. I really think he just wanted to brag about some Lugers he picked up in Reno!!! I'll let you know if I do hear any information!

04-06-2003, 09:56 PM	#4
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hello Frank, Next time to visit with RES, have him show you the Swiss luger he picked up at Reno. It came from Bern and has a fixed .22 cal. barrel in 6" length...and the toggle assembly is not an Erma unit, but a Bern W+F stamped unit. Your AZ show sounds like most CA-State shows. More non-gun junk than any tables with guns... Driving to Reno (4 hours) and Las Vegas (12 hours) is my only hope of a decent show... Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

04-08-2003, 10:29 AM	#6
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Jerry, that's the one!! I went to the December Show and that one was pretty good. The February Show wasn't too bad, but this show was a real loser!! They had a good turn out on Saturday, so I don't understand the lack of gun stuff at a gun show!!! Pete, I'll try to see RES late this week or early nexy week.

04-08-2003, 09:06 PM	#7
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,485 Thanks: 1,283 Thanked 3,581 Times in 989 Posts	Hi Frank! I'm with you! I saw the same guns as did you... and my conclusion is that... I'm getting too damn old to walk four or five miles to see one marginally collectable pistol!!! I am beginning to think these SW gun shows aren't for me! Till...later...GT

04-08-2003, 09:28 PM	#9
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,485 Thanks: 1,283 Thanked 3,581 Times in 989 Posts	Hi Ted! You're right! They used to call them kids!!! My son and daughter grew up at gun shows, they always knew where the neat stuff was, I scored a lot of nice stuff with my kids scouting it out... bad thing about that is... now they think it theirs!! Oh well, thats what wills are for! Nice to hear from you Ted! Hope all is well! till...later...GT