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08-17-2001, 03:00 PM

Spotted this one on a dealer's site I've done business with. I've been wanting a shooter and I think this will fit the bill with a new right grip. What do ya'll think? Click below pic for right side.

DWM 1914 Artillery Luger 9mm $525

8" barrel. 1918 chamber date. Correct-type, unnumbered wood-bottom magazine. All matching but sideplate. Checkering sanded deeply on right grip. 95% blue, 60% straw.

The bore on the Artillery Luger is excellent. There is no pitting visible with my naked eye either inside or out. This would be a very presentable pistol but for two defects I mentioned in my original listing:

1. Someone has deeply sanded an area on the right grip (presumably to obliterate initials someone carved into them a long time ago.

2. The takedown sideplate is mismatched to the rest of the pistol. (All other numbers match.)

Right Side Picture
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?...nce=0&res=high

miner · 08-17-2001, 03:58 PM

JUMP ON IT...or give ME the dealer's contact info!

08-17-2001, 04:30 PM

If you don't want it, I'll take it for that price!!! Good Hunting

Chip · 08-17-2001, 05:03 PM

Guess its too late to tell you I would take it, if your not interested in it.

Daniel · 08-17-2001, 06:26 PM

Wanna make a $100 profit? :>)

Big Norm · 08-18-2001, 12:54 AM

Wanna make $200 profit. I'll take that obsolete mismatched rust bucket off of your hands.

David Jackson · 08-18-2001, 04:05 AM

You probably don't want a mismatched gun like that with a bad grip! You can sell it to me for a $300 profit!

Dok · 08-18-2001, 12:03 PM

BILL · 08-18-2001, 01:05 PM

Well, the pictures look good but it appears to me, and I have been known to make many mistakes, that the left side picture is actually the right side of the pistol. I have heard of 'mismatched' pistols but to have the left and right side not matched..well, that could account for the low price.

BILL · 08-18-2001, 01:10 PM

As soon as I posted that I saw that I was mistaken, the right side is truly the right side. With only the two options I had a 50-50 chance of being right..but alas, no such luck. Since I can't withdraw my earlier post (hey, Dok, why can't I go back and delete my post?) I will just stop digging the hole I am in. Nice Artillery, buy it.

Hugh · 08-18-2001, 03:52 PM

Bill,

are you sure that only looks like the right side but is really the left side turned around to look like the right side, or maybe the right side turned around to look like the left side or maybe the .................

08-19-2001, 07:37 AM

Check goes out for the Artillery tomorrow (BTW price included shipping). He's going to ship it out with the other Luger I just finished paying for. Got this one for a killer price through some lucky buying and trading which is the only way I can afford guns like this.

PS: I think I fixed it this time so Bill won't get the side and top views confused =;^)

Click for Top View
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?...nce=0&res=high

Don · 08-19-2001, 10:52 AM

Guess you're not gonna reveal your source for these little gems at bargain basement prices! Can't say that I blame you!

Color me green...

--Don

BILL · 08-19-2001, 01:26 PM

Beautiful Swiss!! That picture captures the beauty of the Luger in all of it's splendor. Nice grips, nice blue, nice straw..excellent picture.

08-19-2001, 10:32 PM

A heavily sanded right grip hints at an EWB luger. Many LP08's and broomhandles were marked with a large EWB crudely cut in the grips and the seller invariably thinks it is a GI's initials carved in to ID his property. In reality, it is a Weimar organization's initials. Sometimes, folks sand off the initials or replace the grips and toss the EWB's!

08-19-2001, 10:44 PM

I hope that wasn't the case but there is no way to know. Could of been done 1 year ago or 80 years ago. The sanded area does not look to be dark with age but then neither does the left grip. Will post if they're original when I get it. My luck the right grip was marked "A. H. Cpl."=;^)

08-21-2001, 03:02 PM

hi guys, i can't believe the price for this ari. 525 $, thats great. buy it. on the right grip could have been two different markings: 1. EWB (Einwohner Wehr Bayern) it means the citizen-force of bavaria, and the 2. the red 9, it was made in some lugers because some gun-smithes in ww 1 misunderstood an order: there were 7,65 mm and 9 mm mauser c 96 in ww 1. it happened often, that soldiers shot 9 mm-ammo in an 7,65 mauser. that was dangerous, of course. so they gave an order, to brand one grip with a big 9 and paint it red. some gun-smithes read on lugers DWM (Deutsche Waffen und Munitionsfabriken) but they thougt DWM means Deutsche Waffenfabriken Mauser, thats of course not so.so they branded also some luger-grips. they are very rare.

08-17-2001, 03:00 PM	#1
dobk Guest Posts: n/a	Shooter Artillery Spotted this one on a dealer's site I've done business with. I've been wanting a shooter and I think this will fit the bill with a new right grip. What do ya'll think? Click below pic for right side. DWM 1914 Artillery Luger 9mm $525 8" barrel. 1918 chamber date. Correct-type, unnumbered wood-bottom magazine. All matching but sideplate. Checkering sanded deeply on right grip. 95% blue, 60% straw. The bore on the Artillery Luger is excellent. There is no pitting visible with my naked eye either inside or out. This would be a very presentable pistol but for two defects I mentioned in my original listing: 1. Someone has deeply sanded an area on the right grip (presumably to obliterate initials someone carved into them a long time ago. 2. The takedown sideplate is mismatched to the rest of the pistol. (All other numbers match.) Right Side Picture http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?...nce=0&res=high

08-17-2001, 03:58 PM	#2
miner User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: KY Posts: 42 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Shooter Artillery JUMP ON IT...or give ME the dealer's contact info!

08-17-2001, 04:30 PM	#3
Zeus Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Shooter Artillery If you don't want it, I'll take it for that price!!! Good Hunting

08-17-2001, 05:03 PM	#4
Chip User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 28 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Shooter Artillery Guess its too late to tell you I would take it, if your not interested in it.

08-17-2001, 06:26 PM	#5
Daniel User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ct. and Ma. Posts: 152 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Shooter Artillery Wanna make a $100 profit? :>)

08-18-2001, 12:54 AM	#6
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Shooter Artillery Wanna make $200 profit. I'll take that obsolete mismatched rust bucket off of your hands.

08-18-2001, 04:05 AM	#7
David Jackson User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Magalia, California Posts: 135 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Shooter Artillery You probably don't want a mismatched gun like that with a bad grip! You can sell it to me for a $300 profit!

08-18-2001, 12:03 PM	#8
Dok RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Bermuda (Eat Your Heart Out) Posts: 1,626 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	What's this - a feeding frenzy? (EOM)

08-18-2001, 01:05 PM	#9
BILL User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Western Washington Posts: 826 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Shooter Artillery Well, the pictures look good but it appears to me, and I have been known to make many mistakes, that the left side picture is actually the right side of the pistol. I have heard of 'mismatched' pistols but to have the left and right side not matched..well, that could account for the low price.

08-18-2001, 01:10 PM	#10
BILL User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Western Washington Posts: 826 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Shooter Artillery As soon as I posted that I saw that I was mistaken, the right side is truly the right side. With only the two options I had a 50-50 chance of being right..but alas, no such luck. Since I can't withdraw my earlier post (hey, Dok, why can't I go back and delete my post?) I will just stop digging the hole I am in. Nice Artillery, buy it.

08-18-2001, 03:52 PM	#11
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	Re: Shooter Artillery Bill, are you sure that only looks like the right side but is really the left side turned around to look like the right side, or maybe the right side turned around to look like the left side or maybe the .................

08-19-2001, 07:37 AM	#12
dobk Guest Posts: n/a	You Guys Have Convinced Me! Check goes out for the Artillery tomorrow (BTW price included shipping). He's going to ship it out with the other Luger I just finished paying for. Got this one for a killer price through some lucky buying and trading which is the only way I can afford guns like this. PS: I think I fixed it this time so Bill won't get the side and top views confused =;^) Click for Top View http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?...nce=0&res=high

08-19-2001, 10:52 AM	#13
Don User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 146 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: You Guys Have Convinced Me! Guess you're not gonna reveal your source for these little gems at bargain basement prices! Can't say that I blame you! Color me green... --Don

08-19-2001, 01:26 PM	#14
BILL User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Western Washington Posts: 826 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: You Guys Have Convinced Me! Beautiful Swiss!! That picture captures the beauty of the Luger in all of it's splendor. Nice grips, nice blue, nice straw..excellent picture.

08-19-2001, 10:32 PM	#15
mlm Guest Posts: n/a	Re: You Guys Have Convinced Me! A heavily sanded right grip hints at an EWB luger. Many LP08's and broomhandles were marked with a large EWB crudely cut in the grips and the seller invariably thinks it is a GI's initials carved in to ID his property. In reality, it is a Weimar organization's initials. Sometimes, folks sand off the initials or replace the grips and toss the EWB's!

08-19-2001, 10:44 PM	#16
dobk Guest Posts: n/a	That really would be a shame! I hope that wasn't the case but there is no way to know. Could of been done 1 year ago or 80 years ago. The sanded area does not look to be dark with age but then neither does the left grip. Will post if they're original when I get it. My luck the right grip was marked "A. H. Cpl."=;^)

08-21-2001, 03:02 PM	#17
Dieter Guest Posts: n/a	Re: You Guys Have Convinced Me! hi guys, i can't believe the price for this ari. 525 $, thats great. buy it. on the right grip could have been two different markings: 1. EWB (Einwohner Wehr Bayern) it means the citizen-force of bavaria, and the 2. the red 9, it was made in some lugers because some gun-smithes in ww 1 misunderstood an order: there were 7,65 mm and 9 mm mauser c 96 in ww 1. it happened often, that soldiers shot 9 mm-ammo in an 7,65 mauser. that was dangerous, of course. so they gave an order, to brand one grip with a big 9 and paint it red. some gun-smithes read on lugers DWM (Deutsche Waffen und Munitionsfabriken) but they thougt DWM means Deutsche Waffenfabriken Mauser, thats of course not so.so they branded also some luger-grips. they are very rare.