41 Banner Mauser Luger What Variation Please? - Page 2

DavidJayUden · 02-13-2014, 01:52 PM

Maybe a good close-up of the left side just behind the barrel where the numbers are supposed to be?
dju

ithacaartist · 02-13-2014, 01:52 PM

Decent enough quality pics here, Dennis!

xqsme44 · 02-13-2014, 02:55 PM

No signs of any proofs or numbers being removed. No dipped in, dished out places on the metal. Barrel is proofed "E/623", never serial numbered. Don't have a clue what a "hump" is. ( I do, but I think it does not apply in this situation) No suffix. Reading in the big red bible, it's a variation #10. Put together from parts late in the war. So, that being taken into account would explain it. Ifs it is an attempt to make a Banner Luger, why make a $2000. one, when they could have made it into a $5000. one? Anyway, I,m getting the hang of taking better pictures.

DavidJayUden · 02-13-2014, 04:02 PM

Well I've never seen the serial number placed on the right side of the receiver AND in such an unprofessional manner.
But I'm stumped here. It does appear to have been built but never numbered.
I'd really like to hear from some others as to their thoughts and speculations.
The pictures are getting better. Take some more like the last one, close-ups, of different parts on the gun.
dju

SteveM · 02-15-2014, 07:56 AM

The barrel was made by Steyr.

DavidJayUden · 02-15-2014, 08:57 AM

Steve:
Care to elaborate a bit?
How can you tell the mfg. of the barrel, and more importantly, when was Steyr making Luger barrels; pre-war, war-time, or post war? Were they a common supplier?
This may help us in establishing a lineage on the gun. Maybe.
Thanks.
dju

SteveM · 02-15-2014, 11:24 AM

Steyr used the E/623 acceptance stamp. These barrels were used as armourer replacements during WW2. I suppose there were probably quite a few manufactured. You also find Radom's with this acceptance stamp as well.

I think the subject Luger is a parts gun. Of course that's only my opinion.

02-13-2014, 01:52 PM	#22
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,284 Thanks: 7,013 Thanked 2,478 Times in 1,320 Posts	Decent enough quality pics here, Dennis! __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

02-13-2014, 02:55 PM	#23
xqsme44 User Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: VA Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	more pictures No signs of any proofs or numbers being removed. No dipped in, dished out places on the metal. Barrel is proofed "E/623", never serial numbered. Don't have a clue what a "hump" is. ( I do, but I think it does not apply in this situation) No suffix. Reading in the big red bible, it's a variation #10. Put together from parts late in the war. So, that being taken into account would explain it. Ifs it is an attempt to make a Banner Luger, why make a $2000. one, when they could have made it into a $5000. one? Anyway, I,m getting the hang of taking better pictures. Attached Thumbnails

02-13-2014, 01:52 PM	#21
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Maybe a good close-up of the left side just behind the barrel where the numbers are supposed to be? dju

02-13-2014, 04:02 PM	#24
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Well I've never seen the serial number placed on the right side of the receiver AND in such an unprofessional manner. But I'm stumped here. It does appear to have been built but never numbered. I'd really like to hear from some others as to their thoughts and speculations. The pictures are getting better. Take some more like the last one, close-ups, of different parts on the gun. dju

02-15-2014, 07:56 AM	#25
SteveM User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,016 Thanks: 94 Thanked 275 Times in 137 Posts	The barrel was made by Steyr.

02-15-2014, 08:57 AM	#26
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Steve: Care to elaborate a bit? How can you tell the mfg. of the barrel, and more importantly, when was Steyr making Luger barrels; pre-war, war-time, or post war? Were they a common supplier? This may help us in establishing a lineage on the gun. Maybe. Thanks. dju

02-15-2014, 11:24 AM	#27
SteveM User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,016 Thanks: 94 Thanked 275 Times in 137 Posts	Steyr used the E/623 acceptance stamp. These barrels were used as armourer replacements during WW2. I suppose there were probably quite a few manufactured. You also find Radom's with this acceptance stamp as well. I think the subject Luger is a parts gun. Of course that's only my opinion.