Hello, new member here, got a question

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by Sieger

2) AOL, AOL, AOL!!! Violate this little rule and you Luger will never shoot reliably!!!!

Whatchu talkin' 'bout, Willis???

[Sieger]

Originally Posted by postino

Whatchu talkin' 'bout, Willis???

You are funny!

Sieger

[alterfritz]

I can feel your pain Huntmaster, I bought a luger for the same reason and had the same problems. One magazine was good, the other gave me constant jams, often the old cartridge was not ejected and the new one got stuck with the toggle open.
I suggest you contact G.T. here in the forum.
He helped me with mecgar magazines I bought online, put stronger springs in it and such. My luger now shoots fine with 4 magazines and I'm happy I made the investment

[Vlim]

Roger that,

My 1937 S/42 / VoPo shooter has performed flawlessly for several years now. Fresh springs, MecGar magazines, S&B 124gr 9x19 and no noticable problems whatsoever.

I recently got a batch of Winchester White Box 9mm and although it is good, the S/42 doesn't like it as much as the S&B. Let's say a 90% reliability score with Win, and a 99.9% reliability score with S&B.

(ah, and never load the mags to the max. 5 - 6 rounds always works well).

British car electronics are like Russian quality control, German humour and Dutch generosity: Not good

[Sieger]

Originally Posted by Vlim

Roger that,

My 1937 S/42 / VoPo shooter has performed flawlessly for several years now. Let's say a 90% reliability score with Win, and a 99.9% reliability score with S&B.

(ah, and never load the mags to the max. 5 - 6 rounds always works well).

Vlim:

With only 5 or 6 rounds loaded in the magazine, you are cheating, as most of the problems occur with the first three of a full 8 round magazine. Ha!

Do you know, by the way, the advertized velocity, in feet per second, of the 124 grain S&B ammo you have had success with?

Sieger

[Vlim]

Yes, we EU-victims are only allowed to have 5 rounds in the mags during practice, and 6 during Military Pistol shooting

Here ya go (it's in meters per second, though)
http://www.sellier-bellot.cz/pistol-...=9&product=172

360 m/s =/= 1181 fps.

[Sieger]

Originally Posted by Vlim

Yes, we EU-victims are only allowed to have 5 rounds in the mags during practice, and 6 during Military Pistol shooting

Here ya go (it's in meters per second, though)
http://www.sellier-bellot.cz/pistol-...=9&product=172

360 m/s =/= 1181 fps.

Vlim:

I quess you are fortunate to be "allowed" to have a pistol at all in the E.U. Unfortunately, liberals and socialists don't like firearms. Why, I haven't figured out, as they are usually the first victims when a government goes "wrong".

Per the original DWM and later Mauser manuals, the S&B ammo does appear a bit high 1181 v 1076 (or 9.7% higher than the original loading).

With the proper springs, however, this shouldn't be a problem in operation.

As always, thanks!

Sieger

[unspellable]

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[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by Vlim

Here ya go (it's in meters per second, though)
http://www.sellier-bellot.cz/pistol-...=9&product=172

360 m/s =/= 1181 fps.

Isn't that a little "hot" for a Luger???

(Ah; sorry - I see this has already been commented on...)

[Lugerdoc]

HM,It sounds as though your barrel is the original 9mm one originally installed in 1914. If it has been relined to 7.65mm for some reason, it's possible that you still have the 19 turn WW1 9mm recoil spring installed. Perhaps an original 17 turn 7.65mm spring would solve your feed problems, but as mentioned above, there are many other factors that may be responcable. TH

[HuntMaster]

Thanks for the reply, LugerDoc. I'll have to check that out.
Upon examining the mag installed in the pistol, it looks like there is a 1/8" gap between the lip of the mag and the feedramp on the barrel. I'll have to wait until the next gun show ( 1st weekend in June) to try another mag to see if this gap is normal unless some of you can tell me up front.
The guy I got the pistol from just gave me a Luger holster with the markings dLv 41 and a waffenampt stamp on it. Not the best condition in the world, but I am glad to have it. Would love to know it's history.
How did this get to be a classic bike thread?

[HuntMaster]

Originally Posted by Lugerdoc

HM,It sounds as though your barrel is the original 9mm one originally installed in 1914. If it has been relined to 7.65mm for some reason, it's possible that you still have the 19 turn WW1 9mm recoil spring installed. Perhaps an original 17 turn 7.65mm spring would solve your feed problems, but as mentioned above, there are many other factors that may be responcable. TH

Hello Lugerdoc. I took the grips off and counted the coils on the spring in the frame. ( I'll show my ignorance here by saying I suppose this is the recoil spring you mentioned). Actually, I counted 20 coils. Again, I will have to wait for the next show to see if I can find a 7.65 spring, and a different mag .
Question- are the mec-gar mags of reasonable replacement quality? And how much would be a reasonable price for a correct spring?
Also, upon examinig the underside of my grips, one of them says " made in Italy". Is this common? or am I running in to a " robbed parts" pistol. The grips appear very old, as if they came with the gun.

[HuntMaster]

Update- I tried a new mag today and still have the same problem. I believe it's the recoil spring now. So I've got to find a 7.65 spring. Any suggestions on a supplier?

[Vlim]

Tom Heller

[HuntMaster]

Ordered a spring from Tom Heller tonight. Easy guy to talk with. Offered some tips, and answered a few questions for me.
I know a lot of things about a lot of guns, but Luger is not one of them- neither is the P-38. I am beginning to get a grasp of it though, and am learning more every day.
Thanks for the welcome and input,guys.
HM
(Derek)

[Lugerdoc]

HM, I'm holding a couple of original 7.65mm luger springs for you to try. TH

[HuntMaster]

Thanks, Lugerdoc. Payment sent this a.m. .

[FNorm]

I didn't see anyone answer so: The small 8,83 you see is the distance between the lands in mm. they usually run from 8,82 - 8,86.

[HuntMaster]

A big THANKS to you guys, and especially Lugerdoc. He was right on the money- the mainspring was the culprit of my troubles. I counted 21 coils on the original spring in my pistol, Lugerdoc recommended to try a 17 coil spring. I got it today, installed(fun) ,and tried it out.
It now operates flawlessly with 93gr Fiocchi rounds. Lesson for those who do not know- avoid Kinematics Research reman loads- they still do not cycle the toggle back far enough to eject and chamber the next round.
I will now try to figure out how to post pics on the new member forum to show off my humble pistol.
Also got to get someone to tell me about the holster that came with it.
Again, Thanks!
Auf wedersehen,
HM

[Sieger]

HuntMaster:

Please see your Private Message.

Sieger