WWII Ammo

kidvett · 11-09-2002, 10:48 PM

Some WWII ammo:

top: Kam St 1943 German

middle: Aux 2 41 German ( the so-called BLACK ammo)

bottom: DI 43 9MM Canadian ( for STEN SMG )

kidvett [img]cool.gif[/img]

Dwight Gruber · 11-09-2002, 11:30 PM

How much would one expect to pay for an example of one of the middle (blue-label) boxes?

--Dwight

Aaron · 11-10-2002, 02:11 AM

I get $25 to $35 for a box of 16 cartridges, depending on condition. Have a small quantity left, will be listing it on this forum soon.

wterrell · 11-10-2002, 07:40 AM

Do you find any early 7.65mm ammo?

George_F · 11-15-2002, 05:02 PM

Good question. I have a quantity of ammo that I will need to unload (mostly wartime or pre-war stuff). Where can I find an idea of prices for such things?

Thanks!

ToggleTop · 11-15-2002, 08:12 PM

Hello,
I have read somewhere, but I can't remember where that the lacquered metal case bullets were to be used in the P.38 and the brass case bullets were to be used in the P.08. The reason I remember for this was the metal case bullets caused extraction problems in the P.08. Has anyone else ever come across this information and where did you find it? [img]confused.gif[/img]

G.W. Gill · 11-15-2002, 11:53 PM

The Luger Book by Walter covers ammo quite well. You got it right except for some that they ... now I have to hit the books! [img]cool.gif[/img]

ToggleTop · 11-16-2002, 10:58 PM

G.W. here is an excerpt I found in The Luger Book by John Walter:

The last paragraph is confusing to me! Oh,I think I understand now, he is talking about brass case cartridges with the mE bullets working fine.

max2cam · 11-17-2002, 10:56 AM

Modern Russian steel cased 9mm works fine in my Luger with 100% reliablity (in the right mag). In fact, it's more realiable than Winchester 9mm for me.

AGE · 11-18-2002, 12:06 AM

There have been some real bad experiences with overpressure Russian steel case 9 mm reported on this forum (or maybe the old one) a while back. One of them happened to me (locked up my S&W 3914 dead tight). I had to use a hammer to drive a long slender rod up the barrel to open up the gun--the slide couldn't be opened after firing. The case was found to be quite oversized. Fortunately, this was not a Luger and the S&W works fine.

More dramatic cases have occurred with Lugers. I won't touch Russian ammo (anymore).

G.W. Gill · 11-18-2002, 12:54 AM

Thanks Toggle Top,
Walter can get that way, especially when it gets to the fine points of stuff. I personally need to rebuild my references. They were lost. I would like a set of Still's. Although I believe he thinks I discredited him , I hold him in high esteem as an author and reference.
Sorry Still, your a professional, and I'm just a tinker. <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />

Lugerdoc · 11-18-2002, 07:44 AM

Just a word of caution re shooting the sintered steel nazi bullet ammo: I had a few boxes that I couldn't legally sell when I lived in Calif, so I decided to shoot them up at the range. I notices that a long "flame" extending from the barrel with the first few shots, as the steel bullets wore away the rifling of my bore. Tom H.

11-09-2002, 10:48 PM	#1
kidvett User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 584 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	WWII Ammo Some WWII ammo: top: Kam St 1943 German middle: Aux 2 41 German ( the so-called BLACK ammo) bottom: DI 43 9MM Canadian ( for STEN SMG ) kidvett [img]cool.gif[/img]

11-10-2002, 07:40 AM	#4
wterrell User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,096 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Do you find any early 7.65mm ammo? __________________ Noli me vocare, ego te vocabo, wes --------------------

11-15-2002, 08:12 PM	#6
ToggleTop User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: TN Posts: 297 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hello, I have read somewhere, but I can't remember where that the lacquered metal case bullets were to be used in the P.38 and the brass case bullets were to be used in the P.08. The reason I remember for this was the metal case bullets caused extraction problems in the P.08. Has anyone else ever come across this information and where did you find it? [img]confused.gif[/img] __________________ *********************** ToggleTop************* JustHappenToLoveLugers *************************

11-16-2002, 10:58 PM	#8
ToggleTop User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: TN Posts: 297 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	G.W. here is an excerpt I found in The Luger Book by John Walter: The last paragraph is confusing to me! Oh,I think I understand now, he is talking about brass case cartridges with the mE bullets working fine. __________________ *********************** ToggleTop************* JustHappenToLoveLugers *************************

11-18-2002, 12:06 AM	#10
AGE User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 597 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	There have been some real bad experiences with overpressure Russian steel case 9 mm reported on this forum (or maybe the old one) a while back. One of them happened to me (locked up my S&W 3914 dead tight). I had to use a hammer to drive a long slender rod up the barrel to open up the gun--the slide couldn't be opened after firing. The case was found to be quite oversized. Fortunately, this was not a Luger and the S&W works fine. More dramatic cases have occurred with Lugers. I won't touch Russian ammo (anymore). __________________ Al Eggers (AGE) NRA Life Member

11-09-2002, 11:30 PM	#2
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,890 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,282 Times in 424 Posts	How much would one expect to pay for an example of one of the middle (blue-label) boxes? --Dwight

11-10-2002, 02:11 AM	#3
Aaron Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vista, CA Posts: 1,008 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	I get $25 to $35 for a box of 16 cartridges, depending on condition. Have a small quantity left, will be listing it on this forum soon.

11-15-2002, 05:02 PM	#5
George_F User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 30 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Good question. I have a quantity of ammo that I will need to unload (mostly wartime or pre-war stuff). Where can I find an idea of prices for such things? Thanks!

11-15-2002, 11:53 PM	#7
G.W. Gill User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeastern USA Posts: 369 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The Luger Book by Walter covers ammo quite well. You got it right except for some that they ... now I have to hit the books! [img]cool.gif[/img]

11-17-2002, 10:56 AM	#9
max2cam User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: USA Posts: 97 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Modern Russian steel cased 9mm works fine in my Luger with 100% reliablity (in the right mag). In fact, it's more realiable than Winchester 9mm for me.

11-18-2002, 12:54 AM	#11
G.W. Gill User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeastern USA Posts: 369 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks Toggle Top, Walter can get that way, especially when it gets to the fine points of stuff. I personally need to rebuild my references. They were lost. I would like a set of Still's. Although I believe he thinks I discredited him , I hold him in high esteem as an author and reference. Sorry Still, your a professional, and I'm just a tinker. <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />

11-18-2002, 07:44 AM	#12
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Just a word of caution re shooting the sintered steel nazi bullet ammo: I had a few boxes that I couldn't legally sell when I lived in Calif, so I decided to shoot them up at the range. I notices that a long "flame" extending from the barrel with the first few shots, as the steel bullets wore away the rifling of my bore. Tom H. __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net