reliefs?

Rick W. · 10-08-2003, 11:18 AM

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John Sabato · 10-08-2003, 12:01 PM

Hi Rick,

I think relieving the areas around the rails is a prudent idea that is less likely to cause damage to the receiver with a properly adjusted receiver wrench... I also believe that the area of the recoil lug should be real snug... if your wrench allows movement in this area I would say it is not tight enough. That's why my concept of a Luger receiver wrench applies pressure to the top and bottom of the receiver and not the sides... Cutting a new wrench segment was a wise idea... I like your wrench concept of having replaceable surfaces to adapt to specific receivers... another way to take up the slack is to use a layer or two of aluminum flashing material that will crush as the wrench is tightened and provide a snug fit.

You might consider revising your wrench design to allow for insertion of aluminum flashing material as a cushion on all surfaces that feel the torque of barrel removal or insertion. The aluminum will crush but cannot harm the steel it is protecting...

I would request that if possible, that you post photos of your wrench design and perhaps even the removal process for others to see so that they can understand better what is involved in removing a barrel.

I hope this discussion has been helpful. If you have any other questions please don't hesitate to ask.

Ron Wood · 10-10-2003, 11:45 AM

Rekindle the fire. I would like to see your pictorial. Only two days have elapsed since your former post, so I wouldn't write off the forum as being disinterested in technical content. Erase your doubts...we remain as interested as ever in all things pertaining to Lugers

John D. · 10-10-2003, 11:55 AM

Hey Rick,

I would be very interested...! In fact, off the record - I've been thinking about setting up a "Reference" Forum. In other words, for folks who would post a topic such as you suggest, or a photo essay of a specific Luger variation, or something like Dwight's research which he has posted previously- copying that post into a "Reference" section, which is not a "discussion" Forum (the original would also be left in the original Forum - so folks CAN ask questions). That "Forum" would be the holding area for "Reference" information.

It seems to me that while many of these have been posted over the years - they move "off the page" rather quickly, so folks have a difficult time "finding" them when they really need them....

Anyway - yes - please DO post it - at a personal level, I'd be very interested...!!!

John Sabato · 10-10-2003, 12:57 PM

Those of us with any gunsmith experience at all (and having inquisitive minds...) want to know!

I vote yes Rick... please do your article on wrenches and barrel vises... it would be a classic!

ViggoG · 10-10-2003, 11:02 PM

Rick, <img border="0" alt="[thumbsup]" title="" src="graemlins/bigok.gif" />
There are any number of "Lurkers", and even a few who speak openly, All waiting for any "Tidbits" of knowledge that may come into light.

Please do not feel that because there is no "Hew and Cry" that there is no interest! <img border="0" alt="[jumper]" title="" src="graemlins/jumper.gif" />
We're waiting like the Cat on the Bank, with a "Minnow in his Mouth", You Know, With "Baited Breath".

Who Knows there might even be some who could offer small improvements, After all that is the path to perfection. <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" />
Feed our eyeballs! Please! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />
ViggoG <img border="0" alt="[blabla]" title="" src="graemlins/a_smil17.gif" />

lugerholsterrepair · 10-10-2003, 11:18 PM

Rick, I am detail oriented and would like to see the process if you can post it. I may never change a barrel but sure would like to see the tools and method. C'mon, what else ya got to do? Jerry Burney

Stu · 10-11-2003, 11:57 AM

I second all the support from the other members.

Whilst it's something I'd never do myelf I'd be fascinated to see the details of the operation and the various tooling options.

jamese · 10-12-2003, 06:50 AM

Rick,

I too may never change a barrel, but would I would really like to see how its done and the tools used.

PLEASE! do your article on wrenches and barrel vises,
the horse is not dead, He just woke up!

Thanks,
Jim

10-08-2003, 11:18 AM	#1
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John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Hi Rick, I think relieving the areas around the rails is a prudent idea that is less likely to cause damage to the receiver with a properly adjusted receiver wrench... I also believe that the area of the recoil lug should be real snug... if your wrench allows movement in this area I would say it is not tight enough. That's why my concept of a Luger receiver wrench applies pressure to the top and bottom of the receiver and not the sides... Cutting a new wrench segment was a wise idea... I like your wrench concept of having replaceable surfaces to adapt to specific receivers... another way to take up the slack is to use a layer or two of aluminum flashing material that will crush as the wrench is tightened and provide a snug fit. You might consider revising your wrench design to allow for insertion of aluminum flashing material as a cushion on all surfaces that feel the torque of barrel removal or insertion. The aluminum will crush but cannot harm the steel it is protecting... I would request that if possible, that you post photos of your wrench design and perhaps even the removal process for others to see so that they can understand better what is involved in removing a barrel. I hope this discussion has been helpful. If you have any other questions please don't hesitate to ask. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

10-10-2003, 11:45 AM	#3
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,988 Thanks: 1,067 Thanked 5,099 Times in 1,676 Posts	Rekindle the fire. I would like to see your pictorial. Only two days have elapsed since your former post, so I wouldn't write off the forum as being disinterested in technical content. Erase your doubts...we remain as interested as ever in all things pertaining to Lugers __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

10-10-2003, 12:57 PM	#5
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Those of us with any gunsmith experience at all (and having inquisitive minds...) want to know! I vote yes Rick... please do your article on wrenches and barrel vises... it would be a classic! __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

10-10-2003, 11:18 PM	#7
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,763 Thanks: 4,865 Thanked 3,105 Times in 1,429 Posts	Rick, I am detail oriented and would like to see the process if you can post it. I may never change a barrel but sure would like to see the tools and method. C'mon, what else ya got to do? Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

10-10-2003, 11:55 AM	#4
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 471 Thanked 513 Times in 127 Posts	Hey Rick, I would be very interested...! In fact, off the record - I've been thinking about setting up a "Reference" Forum. In other words, for folks who would post a topic such as you suggest, or a photo essay of a specific Luger variation, or something like Dwight's research which he has posted previously- copying that post into a "Reference" section, which is not a "discussion" Forum (the original would also be left in the original Forum - so folks CAN ask questions). That "Forum" would be the holding area for "Reference" information. It seems to me that while many of these have been posted over the years - they move "off the page" rather quickly, so folks have a difficult time "finding" them when they really need them.... Anyway - yes - please DO post it - at a personal level, I'd be very interested...!!!

10-10-2003, 11:02 PM	#6
ViggoG RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: South Side Virginia Posts: 534 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Rick, <img border="0" alt="[thumbsup]" title="" src="graemlins/bigok.gif" /> There are any number of "Lurkers", and even a few who speak openly, All waiting for any "Tidbits" of knowledge that may come into light. Please do not feel that because there is no "Hew and Cry" that there is no interest! <img border="0" alt="[jumper]" title="" src="graemlins/jumper.gif" /> We're waiting like the Cat on the Bank, with a "Minnow in his Mouth", You Know, With "Baited Breath". Who Knows there might even be some who could offer small improvements, After all that is the path to perfection. <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" /> Feed our eyeballs! Please! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> ViggoG <img border="0" alt="[blabla]" title="" src="graemlins/a_smil17.gif" />

10-11-2003, 11:57 AM	#8
Stu User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 451 Thanks: 4 Thanked 25 Times in 16 Posts	I second all the support from the other members. Whilst it's something I'd never do myelf I'd be fascinated to see the details of the operation and the various tooling options.

10-12-2003, 06:50 AM	#9
jamese User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: South Florida Posts: 789 Thanks: 0 Thanked 84 Times in 34 Posts	Rick, I too may never change a barrel, but would I would really like to see how its done and the tools used. PLEASE! do your article on wrenches and barrel vises, the horse is not dead, He just woke up! Thanks, Jim __________________ The "truth" is a matter of Perception