Newjack with 1st Luger - take a look!

Fenian · 01-08-2010, 11:29 PM

Hey everyone

I'm about to buy this Luger - it's a BYF42 (I have a matching 98k) with no import marks. It's all matching except for the magazine.
The bore looks good, as does the finish. Too good maybe?
How much should I be willing to pay?
Anything at all you can tell me about this particular pistol would be greatly appreciated. Arfcom says this is the Luger board, so here I am. Be gentle!
Thanks so much.

Edward Tinker · 01-09-2010, 12:12 AM

Welcome to the forum. Perhaps some better pictures? And what is the serial number to include suffix?

What the heck is a newjack?

Jason L · 01-09-2010, 06:35 AM

Hello Fenian,
Better pics are required but I can see a few positive things.....
Holster wear in the right places,end of barrel and on the frame rails
The markings and serial #'s look pretty crisp
The safety bar is in the white
byf 42's were issued most commonly with black bottom unnumbered fxo mags According to Third Reich Lugers by Jan C Still which I highly recommend....it is currently out of print so it is kind of pricey.But worth every penny." buy books then guns"
Good luck,
Jason

Norme · 01-09-2010, 08:26 AM

Hi Fenian, If your Luger does not have any finish issues that can't be seen in the photos, and if ALL the numbers match, then it would be worth $1,500.00 to $2,000.00. Regards, Norm

DavidJayUden · 01-09-2010, 08:33 AM

"What the heck is a newjack?
__________________
Edward Tinker"

Ed:
I don't know either but reminds me of a bumper sticker at a friend's shop, reading:
"I KNOW JACK S--T"
dju

Fenian · 01-09-2010, 08:49 AM

LOL

A "Newjack" just means new guy on the block, and if we're talking about Lugers I'm definitely a newjack.

Thanks for the replies so far, I feel better about dropping a lot of money (less than mentioned) on this gun, my first Luger.

The pics were cellphone pics at the dealer. I'll try to get better ones up when I buy it, which I feel I'm going to do at this point. To say I'm psyched would be an understatement!

Edward Tinker · 01-09-2010, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fenian

LOL

A "Newjack" just means new guy on the block, and if we're talking about Lugers I'm definitely a newjack.

we did a poll here once, about 35% of the guys were older than 60; another 10-12% were older than 50 and like 1-% were younger than 30 (active members); so; we might not get you if you use some terms...

oh, here it is:

under 25

3.70%

25-35
5.93%

36-45
18.52%

46-55
29.63%

56-65
26.67%

66-75
12.59%

76-85
2.22%

over 85 Congrats!!!
0.74%

and I am a hip computer guy

Ed

FNorm · 01-09-2010, 11:44 AM

Fenian,

We understand the feeling of the first Luger. Congrats if you can get it for less than mentioned. It looks pretty good. Welcome to the addicti... er Forum.

FN

Weasel505 · 01-09-2010, 12:00 PM

Fenian,

That looks just like my byf42. What's the serial? I have 2853L.

Bob

Thor · 01-09-2010, 12:01 PM

see other comments to DOW on ar15.com
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=5&f=44&t=88315 I go by Thor340 over there.

Fenian · 01-09-2010, 04:16 PM

Yep, I'm DOW on Arfcom. You got me.

OK, got more crappy cellphone pics

I was toying around with the idea of trading an M1A rifle I have for this Luger but wound up paying cash, which I think will make me happier in the long run.

The serial number is 4974G.

Luckily for me when I showed up today to pay there were a couple of gentlemen there who helped me go over the pistol, disassemble it, etc. With their help I was able to verify that the gun was in fact all matching (other than the mag). Both these guys felt the finish and grips were original, and they seemed to know what they were talking about, in fact it wouldn't surprise me if one or both were members here.

When I get it home I'll disassemble it properly and post decent pics, prolly going to be a week or so.

Fenian · 01-09-2010, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason L

byf 42's were issued most commonly with black bottom unnumbered fxo mags..

The gun actually has an unnumbered (there are waffenamts present) fxo magazine with a repro mag bottom, which sounds like the mag may be original...maybe? Just need to get a proper bottom now.

Frank · 01-09-2010, 04:48 PM

As Jason stated, the magazine is proper for your 42 byf. Just try to get one like it without the chipped plastic part!! They are out there, but a little expensive!! Good Luck and congrats on your Luger!!!

jamese · 01-10-2010, 08:17 AM

Hey Ed,

do you fall in the 12% or 26% category ?

Jim

Edward Tinker · 01-10-2010, 10:06 AM

when it was conducted this one:

36-45
18.52%

NOW
46-55
29.63%

Fenian · 01-10-2010, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank

Just try to get one like it without the chipped plastic part!!

Are the floorplates interchangeable, or are Luger mags a 1 piece deal?

I'm coming from the AR15 community - everything is interchangeable!

Thanks again.

Frank · 01-10-2010, 06:24 PM

Fenian, man, I'm glad I found someone more ugly than me!! I do like your color.

The plastic bottoms are one piece, molded from plastic. There are some replacements available.

Lugerdoc or GT from this forum may be able to help you.

Try

Heller Arms LTD.
Thomas W. Heller, aka Lugerdoc
PO Box 398
1420 Heritage Landing #101
St Charles, MO 63302
(636) 447-3006
HellerArms@webtv.net

or

Gerry Tomek
G.T. Specialties
316 W Straford Dr.
Chandler, AZ 85225
480-632-6565

Good Luck!!

01-09-2010, 12:12 AM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,912 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,502 Times in 2,077 Posts	Welcome to the forum. Perhaps some better pictures? And what is the serial number to include suffix? What the heck is a newjack? __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

01-09-2010, 11:44 AM	#8
FNorm Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 978 Thanks: 68 Thanked 127 Times in 108 Posts	Fenian, We understand the feeling of the first Luger. Congrats if you can get it for less than mentioned. It looks pretty good. Welcome to the addicti... er Forum. FN Last edited by FNorm; 01-09-2010 at 11:46 AM. Reason: spell

01-10-2010, 08:17 AM	#14
jamese User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: South Florida Posts: 789 Thanks: 0 Thanked 84 Times in 34 Posts	Hey Ed, do you fall in the 12% or 26% category ? Jim __________________ The "truth" is a matter of Perception

01-08-2010, 11:29 PM	#1
Fenian User Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 27 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Newjack with 1st Luger - take a look! Hey everyone I'm about to buy this Luger - it's a BYF42 (I have a matching 98k) with no import marks. It's all matching except for the magazine. The bore looks good, as does the finish. Too good maybe? How much should I be willing to pay? Anything at all you can tell me about this particular pistol would be greatly appreciated. Arfcom says this is the Luger board, so here I am. Be gentle! Thanks so much.

01-09-2010, 06:35 AM	#3
Jason L User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: CT. USA Posts: 66 Thanks: 2 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Hello Fenian, Better pics are required but I can see a few positive things..... Holster wear in the right places,end of barrel and on the frame rails The markings and serial #'s look pretty crisp The safety bar is in the white byf 42's were issued most commonly with black bottom unnumbered fxo mags According to Third Reich Lugers by Jan C Still which I highly recommend....it is currently out of print so it is kind of pricey.But worth every penny." buy books then guns" Good luck, Jason

01-09-2010, 08:26 AM	#4
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,414 Thanks: 224 Thanked 2,591 Times in 930 Posts	Hi Fenian, If your Luger does not have any finish issues that can't be seen in the photos, and if ALL the numbers match, then it would be worth $1,500.00 to $2,000.00. Regards, Norm

01-09-2010, 08:33 AM	#5
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	"What the heck is a newjack? __________________ Edward Tinker" Ed: I don't know either but reminds me of a bumper sticker at a friend's shop, reading: "I KNOW JACK S--T" dju

01-09-2010, 08:49 AM	#6
Fenian User Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 27 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	LOL A "Newjack" just means new guy on the block, and if we're talking about Lugers I'm definitely a newjack. Thanks for the replies so far, I feel better about dropping a lot of money (less than mentioned) on this gun, my first Luger. The pics were cellphone pics at the dealer. I'll try to get better ones up when I buy it, which I feel I'm going to do at this point. To say I'm psyched would be an understatement!

01-09-2010, 12:00 PM	#9
Weasel505 User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 46 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Fenian, That looks just like my byf42. What's the serial? I have 2853L. Bob

01-09-2010, 12:01 PM	#10
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	see other comments to DOW on ar15.com http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=5&f=44&t=88315 I go by Thor340 over there. __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

01-09-2010, 04:16 PM	#11
Fenian User Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 27 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yep, I'm DOW on Arfcom. You got me. OK, got more crappy cellphone pics I was toying around with the idea of trading an M1A rifle I have for this Luger but wound up paying cash, which I think will make me happier in the long run. The serial number is 4974G. Luckily for me when I showed up today to pay there were a couple of gentlemen there who helped me go over the pistol, disassemble it, etc. With their help I was able to verify that the gun was in fact all matching (other than the mag). Both these guys felt the finish and grips were original, and they seemed to know what they were talking about, in fact it wouldn't surprise me if one or both were members here. When I get it home I'll disassemble it properly and post decent pics, prolly going to be a week or so.

01-09-2010, 04:48 PM	#13
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	As Jason stated, the magazine is proper for your 42 byf. Just try to get one like it without the chipped plastic part!! They are out there, but a little expensive!! Good Luck and congrats on your Luger!!!

01-10-2010, 10:06 AM	#15
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,912 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,502 Times in 2,077 Posts	when it was conducted this one: 36-45 18.52% NOW 46-55 29.63%

01-10-2010, 06:24 PM	#17
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Fenian, man, I'm glad I found someone more ugly than me!! I do like your color. The plastic bottoms are one piece, molded from plastic. There are some replacements available. Lugerdoc or GT from this forum may be able to help you. Try Heller Arms LTD. Thomas W. Heller, aka Lugerdoc PO Box 398 1420 Heritage Landing #101 St Charles, MO 63302 (636) 447-3006 HellerArms@webtv.net or Gerry Tomek G.T. Specialties 316 W Straford Dr. Chandler, AZ 85225 480-632-6565 Good Luck!!