DATA REQUEST for 42 byf Lugers - Page 9

Frank · 01-11-2013, 06:06 PM

Jim, Thanks for your data. It's most appreciated!

Raygunz · 01-12-2013, 08:25 PM

I figured this would be a good opportunity for my first post.

byf 42 barrel #5963 no bore gage. "g" designation "Black Widow" all matching 98% with 2 matching mags and a dld WaA195 black holster

Frank · 01-13-2013, 07:32 AM

Hi Ray, thanks for your data. I hope the 2 matching magazines are black plastic bottom "fxo" types without marks on the plastic.

Raygunz · 01-13-2013, 10:40 AM

No problem Frank. Yes they are black and fxo.
From what I understand, this was a set that had been kept together since its "liberation". Of course that and $4 gets you a cup of coffee at Starbucks.

Frank · 01-13-2013, 06:03 PM

Hi Ray, thanks for the reply!

LugerRuger · 01-16-2013, 12:17 AM

byf 42 #173g

No bore gage.

Frank · 01-16-2013, 07:36 AM

LR, Thanks for your data. Keeping the info flowing is appreciated!

Jake Minnich · 01-16-2013, 07:14 PM

byf 42 9371d, no bore gage

Frank · 01-17-2013, 07:36 AM

Jake, thanks much for the data. As always, it's much appreciated.

tyrupp · 02-14-2013, 05:05 PM

I have 3955 c no bore guage, black grips. can anybody tell me what month this was made

tyrupp · 02-14-2013, 05:39 PM

After looking back at post# 128 it appears that the c is an L in my prior post, list as 3955 L no bore gage

Frank · 02-14-2013, 06:29 PM

Ty, thanks for the data. It's pretty common to mix a "C" with a "L" in 1940 and 1942 Military Mausers, so don't feel bad.

Serial Number 3955L was completed in about August 1942 and was among the last submitted to the Army.

The Portuguese Contract started in the M-Block.

tyrupp · 02-14-2013, 07:25 PM

thanks Frank, What is last serial number that you have found for german made lugers ?

Frank · 02-15-2013, 07:35 AM

Ty, first, you're welcome. Next, you've asked several questions in your "question".

WWII Lugers were made by both Mauser and Krieghoff. Mauser Lugers were produced for mostly the Army, with some undoubtedly for the SS. Krieghoff Lugers went to the Luftwaffe.

As I mentioned, the last Mauser Lugers for the Army ended with the L-Block, approximately. That being true, my data shows the highest number to be 9958L.

Mauser also produced Lugers for Portugal (about 5000) and Bulgaria (about 6000). My data shows the highest Portuguese as 5228m and the highest Bulgarian as 3800n.

Hope this helps a little!

kpf · 02-20-2013, 02:14 PM

I got a 42 byf with no bore gauge ser 5442f today

Regards

Kai

Norway

Frank · 02-20-2013, 02:38 PM

Kai, thanks fot the data on your 42 byf. Congratulations!!

Levi 42 · 02-21-2013, 02:47 PM

Hi Frank, this must be a "banner week" for byf 42's. I just got one on Monday serial number 2944 f . No bore gage stamping. It is all matching with 44 marked wood grips and a black bottom fxo mag. I'd say about a 95% finish gun. Now I have to learn how to post pictures on the forum. What month, would this have been likely made? Thanks. HTH'S

Frank · 02-21-2013, 05:58 PM

Levi, First, thanks for the data and congrats on your new pistol. Serial Number 2944f, 42 byf was completed about April 1942.

Levi 42 · 02-22-2013, 11:15 AM

Thanks for the info Frank....being born in May of 1942 gives me a connection with this pistol

This may not be the proper place to post this however, I have a VOPO byf 42 which has a replacment barrel so I can't help with your original question in this posting but....the serial number is 2047f and I noticed a difference between this one and my new2944f.

the 2047f has the complete serial number including the"f"on the left side of the barreled receiver BUT the 2944f does not???? Just numbers but no "f".

I'm sure this has probably been discussed but I'm wondering if there is a "cut off point" when Mauser stopped carrying over the suffix to the receiver or could it just have been a mistake to not include it?

These types of question are why we collect, isn't it!

Levi

Frank · 02-22-2013, 11:44 AM

Levi, Mauser never stamped the suffix on the left side of the receiver. The only place the suffix is noted is on the front of the frame below the numerals.

The VOPO procedure probably put the "f" on the receiver.

02-14-2013, 05:05 PM	#170
tyrupp User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: ellis,ks Posts: 9 Thanks: 11 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	1942 byf I have 3955 c no bore guage, black grips. can anybody tell me what month this was made

01-11-2013, 06:06 PM	#161
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Jim, Thanks for your data. It's most appreciated!

01-12-2013, 08:25 PM	#162
Raygunz User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I figured this would be a good opportunity for my first post. byf 42 barrel #5963 no bore gage. "g" designation "Black Widow" all matching 98% with 2 matching mags and a dld WaA195 black holster

01-13-2013, 07:32 AM	#163
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Hi Ray, thanks for your data. I hope the 2 matching magazines are black plastic bottom "fxo" types without marks on the plastic.

01-13-2013, 10:40 AM	#164
Raygunz User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	No problem Frank. Yes they are black and fxo. From what I understand, this was a set that had been kept together since its "liberation". Of course that and $4 gets you a cup of coffee at Starbucks.

01-13-2013, 06:03 PM	#165
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Hi Ray, thanks for the reply!

01-16-2013, 12:17 AM	#166
LugerRuger New User Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	byf 42 #173g No bore gage.

01-16-2013, 07:36 AM	#167
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	LR, Thanks for your data. Keeping the info flowing is appreciated!

01-16-2013, 07:14 PM	#168
Jake Minnich New User Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	byf 42 9371d, no bore gage

01-17-2013, 07:36 AM	#169
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Jake, thanks much for the data. As always, it's much appreciated.

02-14-2013, 05:39 PM	#171
tyrupp User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: ellis,ks Posts: 9 Thanks: 11 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	After looking back at post# 128 it appears that the c is an L in my prior post, list as 3955 L no bore gage

02-14-2013, 06:29 PM	#172
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Ty, thanks for the data. It's pretty common to mix a "C" with a "L" in 1940 and 1942 Military Mausers, so don't feel bad. Serial Number 3955L was completed in about August 1942 and was among the last submitted to the Army. The Portuguese Contract started in the M-Block.

02-14-2013, 07:25 PM	#173
tyrupp User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: ellis,ks Posts: 9 Thanks: 11 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	thanks Frank, What is last serial number that you have found for german made lugers ?

02-15-2013, 07:35 AM	#174
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Ty, first, you're welcome. Next, you've asked several questions in your "question". WWII Lugers were made by both Mauser and Krieghoff. Mauser Lugers were produced for mostly the Army, with some undoubtedly for the SS. Krieghoff Lugers went to the Luftwaffe. As I mentioned, the last Mauser Lugers for the Army ended with the L-Block, approximately. That being true, my data shows the highest number to be 9958L. Mauser also produced Lugers for Portugal (about 5000) and Bulgaria (about 6000). My data shows the highest Portuguese as 5228m and the highest Bulgarian as 3800n. Hope this helps a little!

02-20-2013, 02:14 PM	#175
kpf User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Finnøy, Norway Posts: 75 Thanks: 78 Thanked 36 Times in 10 Posts	I got a 42 byf with no bore gauge ser 5442f today Regards Kai Norway

02-20-2013, 02:38 PM	#176
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Kai, thanks fot the data on your 42 byf. Congratulations!!

02-21-2013, 02:47 PM	#177
Levi 42 User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Western PA Posts: 49 Thanks: 4 Thanked 24 Times in 8 Posts	Hi Frank, this must be a "banner week" for byf 42's. I just got one on Monday serial number 2944 f . No bore gage stamping. It is all matching with 44 marked wood grips and a black bottom fxo mag. I'd say about a 95% finish gun. Now I have to learn how to post pictures on the forum. What month, would this have been likely made? Thanks. HTH'S

02-21-2013, 05:58 PM	#178
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Levi, First, thanks for the data and congrats on your new pistol. Serial Number 2944f, 42 byf was completed about April 1942.

02-22-2013, 11:15 AM	#179
Levi 42 User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Western PA Posts: 49 Thanks: 4 Thanked 24 Times in 8 Posts	Thanks for the info Frank....being born in May of 1942 gives me a connection with this pistol This may not be the proper place to post this however, I have a VOPO byf 42 which has a replacment barrel so I can't help with your original question in this posting but....the serial number is 2047f and I noticed a difference between this one and my new2944f. the 2047f has the complete serial number including the"f"on the left side of the barreled receiver BUT the 2944f does not???? Just numbers but no "f". I'm sure this has probably been discussed but I'm wondering if there is a "cut off point" when Mauser stopped carrying over the suffix to the receiver or could it just have been a mistake to not include it? These types of question are why we collect, isn't it! Levi

02-22-2013, 11:44 AM	#180
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Levi, Mauser never stamped the suffix on the left side of the receiver. The only place the suffix is noted is on the front of the frame below the numerals. The VOPO procedure probably put the "f" on the receiver.