DATA REQUEST for 42 byf Lugers - Page 7

mltdwn12 · 02-07-2011, 05:27 PM

Greeting, just found the site and I'm working my way through the posts. But as for your request for data, here's mine;

42 byf
5038 b
8.82

Anyway to tell when this was made? Given the P.08 and swazstika markings I assume in the 1930's?

Craig

Frank · 02-07-2011, 06:57 PM

Craig, thanks for the data on your 42 byf. The "42" is the year of production. Your Luger was completed in January 1942.

mltdwn12 · 02-08-2011, 07:39 PM

What was the Black Widow thing I've read about?

Great forum by the way!

Frank · 02-09-2011, 07:02 AM

Craig, The "Black Widow" is a name that was coined by a dealer to promote the sales of Lugers with Black Bakelite Grips and Black Plastic fxo magazine bottoms. These were not selling well, so he made them "more desirable" by the name "Black Widow". Most collectors DO NOT like the term!

Hope this answers your question.

AZjoe · 04-30-2011, 06:37 PM

Frank,
Just bought a 41 byf. Here is the data:
41
byf
2521 q
8.81

Frank · 05-01-2011, 10:07 AM

Hi Joe, Thanks for the data. It is appreciated!

Mohillbilly · 09-21-2011, 11:58 PM

BYF 42 8306 L I think, no bore gauge stamp, all Black, matching with 2 155 inspectors marks, 5 "buzzard marks"

Frank · 09-22-2011, 10:28 AM

Hi Mo, thanks for the data. If the suffix looks like this, it's a "L"

rhyslucas · 09-27-2011, 04:07 PM

Just inherited the Luger my grandfather brought back from WWII. Exciting to see all of the enthusiasm. Want to learn more!

byf 41
1239z with 8, 84 bore gauge

Hope this helps!

Frank · 09-27-2011, 07:58 PM

Thanks for the data! Nice looking Luger!!

mgvince · 10-30-2011, 08:42 PM

byf 42 4796c 8.82 marked barrel

Frank · 10-31-2011, 06:57 AM

Vince, Thanks for the info. All is greatly appreciated!

rpmerrill · 01-02-2012, 04:38 PM

New to the forum. (today) Just wandering around looking for more info on Dad's gun.
byf 42, #1019 script "l", No other numbers.

Briefly what can you tell me about my gun?
In my retirement I am planning to learn more about it and a P-38 also brought home by Dad.

Dad was in the Rangers, 2nd Batallion from 1942, to UK, to Normandy, to VE Day. Silver Star, 2 Bronze Stars and 3 Purple Hearts. At one point in March of '45, he was wounded/injured and temporarily blinded. His men took him forward to a house basement and left him there. (It was a planned forward aid station.) His rifle wasn't much good to him down there and one of the guys gave him this Luger. He took it with him back to the hospital (almost shot a German POW when the ambualnce arrived and he heard orders shouted in German). He's had it ever since. I don't believe it has ever been fired back home in the States. I have his permission papers from late '45 when he sailed back home. Also the papers for the P-38. All matching numbers and in very nice shape. No numbers at all on the clip however. I plan to fire both guns soon and have been advised by a local gunsmith that they are quite fire-able. I doubt that either gun is a high value collectible other than sentimental value.

All comments and advice are welcome.

I have a photo but haven't figured out how to post it yet.

Frank · 01-03-2012, 08:12 AM

rp, thanks for the data and story about your Dad. I will assume the letter suffix is a "L". If so, the Luger 42 byf S/N 1019L was completed about August 1942 and was among the last Lugers made by Mauser for the German Military.

WELCOME to the Luger Forum!!!

Frank · 01-17-2012, 06:18 PM

Thanks all for the data

fender57vneck · 03-07-2012, 03:55 PM

Mine does not have it.

Kohaku2416 · 03-19-2012, 07:32 PM

My BYF 42 is numbered 6128, L Block, no bore gauge.

Frank · 03-20-2012, 07:28 AM

Brandon, thanks for the info on your Luger. It's appreciated.

thebearpack · 08-02-2012, 07:20 PM

Not sure if you're still collecting this info but I just picked up a 42 byf today: 1012k with no bore gage. Hope that helps.

QuanLoi · 08-02-2012, 10:22 PM

If you're still collecting data:

42 byf 3697d 8.82 on underside of barrel.

09-22-2011, 10:28 AM	#128
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Hi Mo, thanks for the data. If the suffix looks like this, it's a "L" Attached Thumbnails

03-07-2012, 03:55 PM	#136
fender57vneck User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Liberty Lake Washington. Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re byf 42 Mine does not have it.

02-07-2011, 05:27 PM	#121
mltdwn12 User Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Greeting, just found the site and I'm working my way through the posts. But as for your request for data, here's mine; 42 byf 5038 b 8.82 Anyway to tell when this was made? Given the P.08 and swazstika markings I assume in the 1930's? Craig

02-07-2011, 06:57 PM	#122
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Craig, thanks for the data on your 42 byf. The "42" is the year of production. Your Luger was completed in January 1942.

02-08-2011, 07:39 PM	#123
mltdwn12 User Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	What was the Black Widow thing I've read about? Great forum by the way!

02-09-2011, 07:02 AM	#124
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Craig, The "Black Widow" is a name that was coined by a dealer to promote the sales of Lugers with Black Bakelite Grips and Black Plastic fxo magazine bottoms. These were not selling well, so he made them "more desirable" by the name "Black Widow". Most collectors DO NOT like the term! Hope this answers your question.

04-30-2011, 06:37 PM	#125
AZjoe User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Goodyear, AZ Posts: 24 Thanks: 23 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Frank, Just bought a 41 byf. Here is the data: 41 byf 2521 q 8.81

05-01-2011, 10:07 AM	#126
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Hi Joe, Thanks for the data. It is appreciated!

09-21-2011, 11:58 PM	#127
Mohillbilly New User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: ST Louis MO Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	BYF 42 8306 L I think, no bore gauge stamp, all Black, matching with 2 155 inspectors marks, 5 "buzzard marks"

09-27-2011, 04:07 PM	#129
rhyslucas New User Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 3 Thanks: 5 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Just inherited the Luger my grandfather brought back from WWII. Exciting to see all of the enthusiasm. Want to learn more! byf 41 1239z with 8, 84 bore gauge Hope this helps!

09-27-2011, 07:58 PM	#130
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Thanks for the data! Nice looking Luger!!

10-30-2011, 08:42 PM	#131
mgvince Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	byf 42 4796c 8.82 marked barrel

10-31-2011, 06:57 AM	#132
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Vince, Thanks for the info. All is greatly appreciated!

01-02-2012, 04:38 PM	#133
rpmerrill User Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 9 Thanks: 3 Thanked 16 Times in 4 Posts	New to the forum. (today) Just wandering around looking for more info on Dad's gun. byf 42, #1019 script "l", No other numbers. Briefly what can you tell me about my gun? In my retirement I am planning to learn more about it and a P-38 also brought home by Dad. Dad was in the Rangers, 2nd Batallion from 1942, to UK, to Normandy, to VE Day. Silver Star, 2 Bronze Stars and 3 Purple Hearts. At one point in March of '45, he was wounded/injured and temporarily blinded. His men took him forward to a house basement and left him there. (It was a planned forward aid station.) His rifle wasn't much good to him down there and one of the guys gave him this Luger. He took it with him back to the hospital (almost shot a German POW when the ambualnce arrived and he heard orders shouted in German). He's had it ever since. I don't believe it has ever been fired back home in the States. I have his permission papers from late '45 when he sailed back home. Also the papers for the P-38. All matching numbers and in very nice shape. No numbers at all on the clip however. I plan to fire both guns soon and have been advised by a local gunsmith that they are quite fire-able. I doubt that either gun is a high value collectible other than sentimental value. All comments and advice are welcome. I have a photo but haven't figured out how to post it yet.

01-03-2012, 08:12 AM	#134
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	rp, thanks for the data and story about your Dad. I will assume the letter suffix is a "L". If so, the Luger 42 byf S/N 1019L was completed about August 1942 and was among the last Lugers made by Mauser for the German Military. WELCOME to the Luger Forum!!!

01-17-2012, 06:18 PM	#135
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Thanks all for the data

03-19-2012, 07:32 PM	#137
Kohaku2416 User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Muncie Indiana Posts: 124 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	My BYF 42 is numbered 6128, L Block, no bore gauge.

03-20-2012, 07:28 AM	#138
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Brandon, thanks for the info on your Luger. It's appreciated.

08-02-2012, 07:20 PM	#139
thebearpack New User Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Not sure if you're still collecting this info but I just picked up a 42 byf today: 1012k with no bore gage. Hope that helps.

08-02-2012, 10:22 PM	#140
QuanLoi User Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	If you're still collecting data: 42 byf 3697d 8.82 on underside of barrel.