DWM Commercial Survey--call for data

[Arizona Slim]

Hi Dwight, I assume you are still collecting data on Commercial Luger's, if so here is the information on my 1906 AE:

Serial Number: 54777
Proof: Crown over lazy N (on side)
Caliber: .30
Thumb Safety: Polished
Extractor: LOADED
Stamped: GERMANY
Frame: Short
Thumb Safety Area: Not Stamped

[earlyluger]

DWM
Serial Number 13225
Model 1900
Commercial
DWM scroll on toggle
No proof marks
Wide grip safety
Type 3 safety - raised with fluted end
Type R take down lever - marked on round end
Early type front sight
No other markings or characteristics


Caliber 7.65 Para
About 80% blue with some strawing still present, bluing mostly gone with patina on front and rear grip straps. Worn dirty grips with no markings, left grip chipped around safety lever with small bit missing.

[sheepherder]

Didn't see this 1900 AE in your database; I acquired it this last Summer [2012]...

Serial - 13246
Model - AE
Proof - no
Swiss + - no
Grip Safety - W
Safety - 3
Takedown # - B
Export mark - Germany
Caliber - 30
Notes - 5, 6 on inside R grip; X, O inside L grip - both grips worn & oil soaked, may be original or period; finish worn/dulled to gray; numbers matching; mag base replaced; bore poor

[ithacaartist]

1906 (New Model):

*serial number 29248

*variation
...AE (American Eagle on chamber)

...c/BUG proofs on barrel

*proof marks, left receiver
...no proof marks

*Caliber .30

*Thumb safety polished

*Extractor stamped LOADED

*Stamped GERMANY

*long frame

* additional noteworthy characteristics?
"172,28" stamped on bbl above serial number, but below c/BUG proofs
bottom of rear grip strap tapped with small hole, presumably for some sort of rear stock to be attached
broken/badly repaired grip safety bar
Numbers match including grips but not mag
Suspected early re-blue. but top of toggle axle retaining pin in the white

[skeeter4206]

Since we are adding lugers to the list heres my 1900 AE

SN - 8372
Model - AE
Proof Marks - None
Swiss + - No
Thumb Safety type - Type 2
Grip Safety - narrow
Takedown number location - Bottom
Export mark - Germany on front of trigger guard
Caliber - .30

Additional notes:
*Barrel possibly been replaced (No serail number or markings)
*Rear sight on rear toggle link has been changed out and a peep sight added.
*Gun has been possibly re-blued at some point along the way
*All numbers match (except the replaced barrel)
Grips match to the gun with the SN "72" stamped on the inside
*Magazine has a wood base with "Germany" stamped on the bottom
*Scalloped toggle knobs

[robespierre]

hi Dwight,

I am writing you from Argentina,South America.

I own a commercial DWM Luger 9 mm ,in my understanding 1906

here you are the data for your database

*Serial number
27931

*Variation
Commercial (blank chamber)

*proof marks, left receiver and barrel
Crowns on receiver
B over left side
U over right side
No mark on barrel

*grip safety
Wide W (extends full width of grip strap)
Not matching

*Thumb safety type
Type 3, curved grooved

*Where is the takedown lever numbered?
Bottom edge B

*Stamped GERMANY or not?
NOT

*Any additional noteworthy characteristics
Gesichert/Geladen
Takedown type III according your standard
original matching barrel 4 ", I keep it but now is fitted with a 6" one

Later I will add pics, lost my camera.

best regards,

Hernan

PS: it shoots the hell of good!

[robespierre]

dwight,when tryng to access the database it says link no valid,could you do something,

thanks,

hernan

[Andre']

Good Evening,

I'm new to this forum, and I brought home my first Luger today. The purchase was completely coincidental - I found this gun in a Pawn Shop and purchased it right away after doing my home work. Here is what I got:

DWM Commercial - 1908 (number block puts it in 1907?)

*serial number: 45269
*proof marks on left receiver: crown over B, U - barrel is marked crown over B, U, G
*Stamped GERMANY: No
*Recoil spring well spur or straight: Not sure what that means - field stripped it today but not sure
*c/X c/X c/X military proofs: No Military Proofs
*Any additional noteworthy characteristics:
(1) All matching serial numbers (excluding grips); Mag serial # on wood base is 630 a
(2) No stock lug, no hold-open
(3) Gun has aged well - I can take pictures if neede

[Spapo215]

I bought this DWM luger a while back and was told it was a 9mm. 9mm luger rounds did not fit, I believe I have a 7.65 parabellum (.30 luger). all parts match with the last 2 numbers of the 4 digit serial stamped on them.
On the bottom of the 3 AND 5/8 barrel I can see a crown over top of a N, under that is the serial number and directly under that is a cursive N.
All parts match, the bottom half of the weapon was previously re-blued, but looks to be done only to certain areas that were previously corroded. top half of weapon is original.
I have crappy pictures but will get better ones if needed.
Any insight would be appreciated. Thank you

[Sergio Natali]

I do not know if this post could be useful to you or not, in case it isn't , don't even bother answering, but I only wanted to report that in my collection I've got three 1900 "commercial":


DWM AMERICAN EAGLE 1900 s/n 7234 (no GERMANY export mark) - cal. 7,65 Para
DWM AMERICAN EAGLE 1900 s/n 14124 (with GERMANY export mark) - cal 7,65 Para
DWM 1900 s/n 763 - (Swiss Cross in Sunburst) cal 7,65 Para


Sergio

[Dwight Gruber]

Sergio,

Does the Swiss gun have commercial proofs (c/BUG) or Swiss Military proofs?

--Dwight

[Sergio Natali]

Hi Dwight

Absolutely commercial proofs, it's a 1st Series, and first Variation (frame made for the low button magazine, and low button magazine).

Sergio

[Ron Wood]

Sergio,
I believe that is the highest serial number that I can remember that still has an unrelieved frame. That is a very scarce variation and I would very much like to see some photos! Swiss Commercial Lugers are much less common than military pieces and one that early and still unmodified is a treasure.

[Sergio Natali]

Hi Ron,
Actually I was "over enthusiastic" and had already posted several photos in my album, then I realized that many Moderators didn't have many photos of Lugers in their "albums" and I confess I felt a bit ridiculous so I deleted mine.
Anyway I enclose a couple of snaps, I'll take a few more if necessary; this is one of my best Lugers, the only problem is the magazine that although it has got a low button, it's a "military" one.
Regards

Sergio

[Sergio Natali]

Sorry I posted one wrong photo (of my "dutch")
Here you are the other side of the 1900 Swiss Commmercial Cross in the Sunburst.

[Ron Wood]

That is a beautiful gun! I wish I had known you sooner. I sold a Commercial flat button magazine last year. My Swiss #109 is military so I didn't need the magazine. Sorry

[Sergio Natali]

Yes, it is a shame, it's quite difficult to find a flat button commercial magazine, and they are quite expensive.

[mystical_tutor]

I just downloded your data base and noticed I have a few numbers not on it, including a couple old type frames. If you would like them please PM me your USPS address and I'll mail them to you. I also have a lot of old hard copy lists from World of Luger and Simpson, though I notice your key says dealers lists have been included.

Gary

[Cleveland4V]

1906
American Eagle
s/n 36040
7,65
no proofs
short frame
loaded
blank safety
Germany

Picked this one up at a garage sale. $50

[seamaster123]

http://s6.photobucket.com/user/horse...ml?sort=6&o=23

Here is DWM just got only has a serial number and marked DWM any idea what it is or value ser no 6055 also has an old western style holster cleaning rods 9mm and stock
Horse gunner