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12-18-2007, 05:01 PM | #61 |
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1938 S-42
This gun is not pristine but it is mechanically sound. Serial number is 2286n. It has a moderate amount of light pitting and a couple of rough spots caused by rust. The bluing is thining and turning to a brown patina on the grip strap and parts of the lower frame. The bore of the gun is good, there is some pitting in the bore, but the lands and grooves are strong. The waffen marks are 83 and 63 on the receiver, best I can tell. Seems to be the droop wing eagle on the receiver and perhaps the stick wing eagle on the barrel, it's a little faint. The grips fit good and are in very good shape, but are darkened with age and oil. All parts seem to be properly numbered and waffen marks are correct. The magazine has the aluminum base with the correct serial number and is waffen marked 83.
Photos: Hope this helps, not real sure about the eagles, barr |
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S/42 1937
1937 1264 t, DE63, strawed, hump, matching mag SE63
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S/42 1937
1937 5607p D/E 63, strawed, MTP, matching
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I feel like a full on GOMER...It's only now that I realize in my haste to participate, I completely omited my pistols S/N, which of course renders my previous submission utterally useless!
Let's try it again... 1937 S/42 SE/63 SE/63 MTP 3746a!!! |
01-05-2008, 12:32 AM | #65 |
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Oh, uh...and all blued...not strawed...but the previous pic illustrates that.
(I sure hope none of you realize this lack of putting all the data correctly together in one post, is really an elaborate scheme of mine, designed explicitly to drive my # of posts up, and has NOTHING to do with the fact that I can't seem to follow directions very well) |
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1938 S/42 - S/N 4797n - SE/83 SE/63 - MTP - mag= wood finger grip #2831
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S/42 Data for Jan
Hi Jan, Brand new to forum. My first post goes to you. 1937 S/42, sn 4185u, DE/63 DE/63 MTP all matching except mag.
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03-03-2008, 10:58 PM | #68 |
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John, welcome to the forum! I have merged your thread into this one where all the other 1937 info is located.
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Thanks Ed, I'll figure out where everything goes in time. John
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Jan, I finally got a good look at the 1937 S/42 sn 8091a that I mentioned long ago.
Here is a photo (although not very focused, but you can see the images. The numbers are definitely both 63. Sorry this took so long.
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S/42s to report
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1937 S/42 sn 3513 SE63 SE63 MTP blued 1937 S/42 sn 7727p DE63 DE63 MTP strawed Paul |
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1937 S/42 sn 6295a SE63 SE63 MTP blued, matching grips
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1937 S/42 SE63 SE63 MTP, 6054a , blued and bump
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1937, S/42, S/N 1646x: DE/63 DE/63 MTP, all black, w/frame hump. The two DE/63s were definitely stamped with two different dies. Bob |
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'37 & '38 P.08 markings
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Ref my prior reply on 1937 S/42 S/N 1646X: The magazine is matching (first mag, not extra) and has an SE/63 Acceptance Stamp. Bob |
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Data request 1937 and 1938 S/42
1938 S/42, sn 9307k, SE/63 SE/63 MTP Mat mag SE/63
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Jea-marie, Hoyt, grappa, bar 44, ChannelIsles, John Winter, John (Capricorn), John 42766, John Sabato, Paul, Aaron, AK2 G., whcoyte and Ron; thanks for the 1937 and 1938 S/42 data. Table updated.
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1938 S/42, sn 4463c, SE/83 SE/63 non matching mag. I could be wrong, the reblue is so heavy it is very hard to see even with a 10X loupe.
1938 S/42, sn 7804h, SE/63 SE/63 non matching mag, Silver and gold plated, Heavy barrel |
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1938 S/42 out of posted ser. # range S/42 marked receiver with no proofs/ser.#'s
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As per my post with pictures on the forum. Any information/enlightenment would be appreciated. 1938 S/42 'parts marking' as pictured in Kenyon's Lugers at Random page 370 Serial # is 9057, O block, which I believe falls outside the 1938 range and into 1939 production. Receiver and barrel with no serial numbers, but S/42 marked on left of receiver where serial number would normally be. No WAA's or firing proofs on right side of slide, but barrel is stamped E/655...1939 production?, as per Kenyon's photo's, but no index marks on barrel/slide, all toggle parts and internals including firing pin marked 57, as per normal. The bottom half is all matching, including mag, which is E/63 marked, grips are 6 digits off. Rare or just unusual? Kinda spooky looking without proofs and serial numbers. I have never encountered one, but remembered seeing the variation pictured. Would really appreciate any information on this anomaly from the experts. |
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A long time ago, I determined that serial numbers without the essential related data only provides an avenue to get a collector of this information in a lot of trouble. The 1937-S/42 is a good example. There were three major transitions in 1937. Number one, the change from the straw small parts to the all blue small parts. It would help if you would indicate this info with the serial number and letter suffix (blue or straw). Number two, the no hump to the hump (does your pistol have the Mauser hump). Keep in mind that some pistols with straw small parts have the Mauser hump (please indicate). And three the change in the magazine acceptance in the - r - block from the DE-63 to the SE-63. If this data is not presented, all we have is serial numbers and absolutly no way to present these changes to collectors. Hopefully you guys who are presenting the serial numbers will provide this additional information. I collect serial numbers also and need this information to make accurate comments. Thanks
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