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Mark1 · 12-22-2018, 02:42 AM

Referring to Ron Wood's excellent "Early frame tutorial" for comparison, I would have said this frame is a Type V. If that's the case then it could be from a (short frame) 1906 Commercial, with grip safety ?
Mark

DonVoigt · 12-22-2018, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark1

Referring to Ron Wood's excellent "Early frame tutorial" for comparison, I would have said this frame is a Type V. If that's the case then it could be from a (short frame) 1906 Commercial, with grip safety ?
Mark

Could be, if the serial number has been removed/replaced.

Leed709 · 12-27-2018, 10:33 PM

Sent more pic. of inside of Luger, but I don't see them posted yet. Both the serial no# match on the upper receiver and the lower frame. I counted the coils on the recoil spring and it look 15- 16 coils. Have you guys given up or are you still trying to figure it out? Hope you guys had a great Xmas.

DonVoigt · 12-28-2018, 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leed709

Sent more pic. of inside of Luger, but I don't see them posted yet. Both the serial no# match on the upper receiver and the lower frame. I counted the coils on the recoil spring and it look 15- 16 coils. Have you guys given up or are you still trying to figure it out? Hope you guys had a great Xmas.

Tough to count springs in a picture- 15-16 sounds ok.

If you will post the picture of the inside "well" that I asked for, we can likely ID your frame. See my previous post for the picture to take.

Leed709 · 12-29-2018, 12:04 AM

Took more pic. of inside of pistol. Took pic of inside of pistol well where take down lever passes through. These pic. were sent to 4 Scales.

4 Scale · 12-29-2018, 12:53 PM

Here are the latest batch of photos including the frame well. I have done what I can to enhance, but these are very low resolution and there just isn't much to work with.

DonVoigt · 12-29-2018, 03:09 PM

I can see markings in the well, but not good enough to ID.
Got to be closer and in focus, and with the lever in its closed position please, or removed.

4 Scale · 12-29-2018, 03:40 PM

Yes, the frame well needs to show detail equivalent to post #37.

Leed709 · 01-04-2019, 09:19 PM

Did you get the 2 pic of the inside of frame well that I sent today? Hope this was what you were looking for.

4 Scale · 01-05-2019, 02:13 PM

Here they are.

Leed709 · 01-06-2019, 11:50 PM

Were you able to see the marks in the frame well?

DonVoigt · 01-07-2019, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leed709

Were you able to see the marks in the frame well?

No,
too much reflection. The key is can you see an "N" or circled "N" in there, or some other markings that you can describe to us?

4 Scale · 01-07-2019, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Leed709

Were you able to see the marks in the frame well?

I think the major problem is low resolution. The photos you sent me were only 30K in size, which is very small and doesn't really let me enhance. I would encourage you to play with your smartphone or borrow a better camera and try to take bigger/sharper photos. This forum will allow us to post photos up to 195K size, which is over six times more data than were in your photos. All other things being equal, six times sharper/more detail.

cirelaw · 01-08-2019, 11:24 AM

Take it outside in the shade~

Leed709 · 01-11-2019, 12:44 AM

Will try to get better pic. of inside of well this week end outside if it is not raining. The marks in the well are C O 8 and the forth mark look like a arrow head.

Leed709 · 01-16-2019, 05:57 PM

Took 3 new pic. 2 of inside of frame well and 1 of barrel that shows the cross clearer.

Leed709 · 01-17-2019, 01:56 AM

4 Scale did you get the last 3 pic I sent you.

4 Scale · 01-17-2019, 01:57 PM

No photos received.

Leed709 · 01-17-2019, 04:16 PM

Resent pic today.

4 Scale · 01-18-2019, 12:13 AM

Here's another.

12-22-2018, 02:42 AM	#41
Mark1 User Join Date: May 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 72 Thanks: 332 Thanked 74 Times in 25 Posts	Referring to Ron Wood's excellent "Early frame tutorial" for comparison, I would have said this frame is a Type V. If that's the case then it could be from a (short frame) 1906 Commercial, with grip safety ? Mark Last edited by Mark1; 12-22-2018 at 02:47 AM. Reason: add

12-27-2018, 10:33 PM	#43
Leed709 User Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Centeral Texas Posts: 28 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	1913 dwm Sent more pic. of inside of Luger, but I don't see them posted yet. Both the serial no# match on the upper receiver and the lower frame. I counted the coils on the recoil spring and it look 15- 16 coils. Have you guys given up or are you still trying to figure it out? Hope you guys had a great Xmas.

12-29-2018, 12:04 AM	#45
Leed709 User Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Centeral Texas Posts: 28 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	1913 DWM Luger Took more pic. of inside of pistol. Took pic of inside of pistol well where take down lever passes through. These pic. were sent to 4 Scales.

12-29-2018, 12:53 PM	#46
4 Scale User Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 544 Thanks: 194 Thanked 489 Times in 251 Posts	Here are the latest batch of photos including the frame well. I have done what I can to enhance, but these are very low resolution and there just isn't much to work with. Attached Images

12-29-2018, 03:09 PM	#47
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	I can see markings in the well, but not good enough to ID. Got to be closer and in focus, and with the lever in its closed position please, or removed. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

12-29-2018, 03:40 PM	#48
4 Scale User Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 544 Thanks: 194 Thanked 489 Times in 251 Posts	Yes, the frame well needs to show detail equivalent to post #37.

01-04-2019, 09:19 PM	#49
Leed709 User Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Centeral Texas Posts: 28 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	1913 DWM frame well pic Did you get the 2 pic of the inside of frame well that I sent today? Hope this was what you were looking for.

01-05-2019, 02:13 PM	#50
4 Scale User Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 544 Thanks: 194 Thanked 489 Times in 251 Posts	Here they are. Attached Images

01-06-2019, 11:50 PM	#51
Leed709 User Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Centeral Texas Posts: 28 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Pic of lower frame well Were you able to see the marks in the frame well?

01-08-2019, 11:24 AM	#54
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Take it outside in the shade~

01-11-2019, 12:44 AM	#55
Leed709 User Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Centeral Texas Posts: 28 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Will try to get better pic. of inside of well this week end outside if it is not raining. The marks in the well are C O 8 and the forth mark look like a arrow head.

01-16-2019, 05:57 PM	#56
Leed709 User Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Centeral Texas Posts: 28 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Took 3 new pic. 2 of inside of frame well and 1 of barrel that shows the cross clearer.

01-17-2019, 01:56 AM	#57
Leed709 User Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Centeral Texas Posts: 28 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	4 Scale did you get the last 3 pic I sent you.

01-17-2019, 01:57 PM	#58
4 Scale User Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 544 Thanks: 194 Thanked 489 Times in 251 Posts	No photos received.

01-17-2019, 04:16 PM	#59
Leed709 User Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Centeral Texas Posts: 28 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	1913 dwm Resent pic today.

01-18-2019, 12:13 AM	#60
4 Scale User Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 544 Thanks: 194 Thanked 489 Times in 251 Posts	Here's another. Attached Images