Fake artillery won't be on e-bay long! - Page 2

George Anderson · 11-27-2002, 03:39 PM

Gentlemen, take note, in neither his Ebay description nor his personal note< above, does he state that the pistol is functional. Review the last sentence of his Ebay posting. He guarantees it as stated. On a further note, the Ebay watchers are unpaid thought police. I was blasted off Ebay for thirty days for offering a WWII Kriegsmarine dagger which I displayed with the Hakenkreuz unseen. Last week they prominently featured a whole slew of Nazi stuff offered through their sister company Sotheby's NY. In each the swastika was prominently visible.

The Ebay nazis are just like all liberals, west coast thought fascist, socialists and neocommunists; double standards.

And have a nice day.

Edward Tinker · 11-27-2002, 03:42 PM

It doesn't matter, but I am posititve that this seller first had some kind of cup or goblet that he called Hitlers? Had a card with it that was a place setting card that had ole Adolphs name.

I happened to look after he posted the arty, and now there is no record of it, so did E-Bay pull it but not the Arty???

Too weird>

Stu · 11-27-2002, 03:51 PM

George makes an interesting point about ebay's operations, but with reference to the artillery, this is their stated policy about listing guns;

"Firearms: Firearms cannot be listed on eBay's core or storefront sites. Firearms include all "pre-ban," sporting, collectible, curio & relic (C&R), and antique firearms, regardless of their capability to fire a shot. Any item that is designed to propel a metal (or similar) projectile is covered by this ban, regardless of that item's present ability to fire."

So, functional or not, it shouldn't be on there. Don't get me wrong, I don't think the restriction should be there to start with, but they need to be consistent.

markm3 · 11-27-2002, 05:03 PM

Exactly, and I was operating under the assumption that they continue to prohibit listings of firearms, functional or not. They are asleep at the switch. The funny thing is that they acknowledged having received multiple complaints about the item, but claim that they are still investigating. Good grief, what investigating do they need to do?

As for their policy, don't get me started. They are based in Marin County, CA, which tells you everything you need to know.

George Anderson · 11-27-2002, 06:19 PM

Ebay is what I said it is...their European sites offer muzzle loaders all the time. I have seen nonfunctioning fullautos on the American site frequently. They are just a bunch of paranoid yet litigation conscious freaking west coast liberals.

Freischütz · 11-30-2002, 01:35 AM

I live in Alaska and Ebay blocked all National Socialist items I tried to view. I received the usual "..your government etc.." message. I wrote and asked what Alaskan legislation required blocking.

The problem was I specified English and German in the preferred languages section of the browser. Removing German stopped the blocking.

Edward Tinker · 11-30-2002, 03:54 AM

So this is something we have talked about and wondered about. The browser talks to the e-bay server, the server must ask what the langauge setting is and blocks France, Germany and others that don't like Nazi items. So, I would imagine that chaing your setting to American English would allow this. I could test this if I was still overseas, but I'm not [img]biggrin.gif[/img] .

So, if you are overseas and have been blocked, download Netscape and IE Explorer and use one for e-bay and the other for your own language???

11-27-2002, 03:42 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	It doesn't matter, but I am posititve that this seller first had some kind of cup or goblet that he called Hitlers? Had a card with it that was a place setting card that had ole Adolphs name. I happened to look after he posted the arty, and now there is no record of it, so did E-Bay pull it but not the Arty??? Too weird> __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

11-27-2002, 05:03 PM	#4
markm3 User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 59 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Exactly, and I was operating under the assumption that they continue to prohibit listings of firearms, functional or not. They are asleep at the switch. The funny thing is that they acknowledged having received multiple complaints about the item, but claim that they are still investigating. Good grief, what investigating do they need to do? As for their policy, don't get me started. They are based in Marin County, CA, which tells you everything you need to know. __________________ markm3

11-30-2002, 03:54 AM	#7
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	So this is something we have talked about and wondered about. The browser talks to the e-bay server, the server must ask what the langauge setting is and blocks France, Germany and others that don't like Nazi items. So, I would imagine that chaing your setting to American English would allow this. I could test this if I was still overseas, but I'm not [img]biggrin.gif[/img] . So, if you are overseas and have been blocked, download Netscape and IE Explorer and use one for e-bay and the other for your own language??? __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

11-27-2002, 03:39 PM	#1
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,531 Times in 788 Posts	Gentlemen, take note, in neither his Ebay description nor his personal note< above, does he state that the pistol is functional. Review the last sentence of his Ebay posting. He guarantees it as stated. On a further note, the Ebay watchers are unpaid thought police. I was blasted off Ebay for thirty days for offering a WWII Kriegsmarine dagger which I displayed with the Hakenkreuz unseen. Last week they prominently featured a whole slew of Nazi stuff offered through their sister company Sotheby's NY. In each the swastika was prominently visible. The Ebay nazis are just like all liberals, west coast thought fascist, socialists and neocommunists; double standards. And have a nice day.

11-27-2002, 03:51 PM	#3
Stu User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 452 Thanks: 4 Thanked 25 Times in 16 Posts	George makes an interesting point about ebay's operations, but with reference to the artillery, this is their stated policy about listing guns; "Firearms: Firearms cannot be listed on eBay's core or storefront sites. Firearms include all "pre-ban," sporting, collectible, curio & relic (C&R), and antique firearms, regardless of their capability to fire a shot. Any item that is designed to propel a metal (or similar) projectile is covered by this ban, regardless of that item's present ability to fire." So, functional or not, it shouldn't be on there. Don't get me wrong, I don't think the restriction should be there to start with, but they need to be consistent.

11-27-2002, 06:19 PM	#5
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,531 Times in 788 Posts	Ebay is what I said it is...their European sites offer muzzle loaders all the time. I have seen nonfunctioning fullautos on the American site frequently. They are just a bunch of paranoid yet litigation conscious freaking west coast liberals.

11-30-2002, 01:35 AM	#6
Freischütz User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Eastern Washington Posts: 125 Thanks: 9 Thanked 26 Times in 19 Posts	I live in Alaska and Ebay blocked all National Socialist items I tried to view. I received the usual "..your government etc.." message. I wrote and asked what Alaskan legislation required blocking. The problem was I specified English and German in the preferred languages section of the browser. Removing German stopped the blocking.