Crates full of P08s - Page 2

Kyrie · 01-30-2019, 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MW2152

The Tokarevs are the old original military style right? With no safety? Don’t they have to have a safety to meet the ATF import requirements these days?

Lugers and P38s would sure meet the rules tho.

Those TT-33s are not in the US. That was a picture of one of several dumpsters full of new TT-33s waiting to be destroyed.

MW2152 · 01-30-2019, 12:16 PM

Yep, thanks!

My point was that they could not currently be imported in that configuration anyway

k98mike · 01-30-2019, 06:07 PM

Can they not be imported because they are in Russia?

DonVoigt · 01-30-2019, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k98mike

Can they not be imported because they are in Russia?

That would be "a" reason; they also don't meet import criteria- if you mean the Tokarev pistols.

lugerholsterrepair · 01-30-2019, 08:52 PM

Venezuela could use them right about now.

hayhugh · 01-31-2019, 02:29 AM

Buy T-33 here, scroll down to second item: https://mailchi.mp/aimsurplus/new-sh...s?e=cee4516609

Kyrie · 01-31-2019, 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MW2152

Yep, thanks!

My point was that they could not currently be imported in that configuration anyway

Understood :-)

My point was all those TT-33s were in dumpsters on the way to be destroyed (just like the Lugers, P.38s, ect. in the original post).

They cannot be imported into the US because they no longer exist :-(

DonVoigt · 01-31-2019, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyrie

Understood :-)

My point was all those TT-33s were in dumpsters on the way to be destroyed (just like the Lugers, P.38s, ect. in the original post).

They cannot be imported into the US because they no longer exist :-(

Don't exist? Really? Maybe?
Well, except for the ones that "fell off the truck".

Kyrie · 01-31-2019, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

Don't exist? Really? Maybe?
--- snip ---

Really, really.

If any didn't make it into the dumpsters, they might have survived (for a while). But for the pistols in the dumpsters, crunchola.

Diver6106 · 02-06-2019, 11:51 PM

That's what people like Sam Cummings looked for... They are worth too much to just melt down and will show up somewhere in the future. Just like the Chinese Mausers brought into North Carolina years ago. Negotiations will continue...

hayhugh · 02-07-2019, 02:44 AM

A good substitute: https://www.classicfirearms.com/yugo...-surplus-9rd/?

Kyrie · 02-07-2019, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diver6106

That's what people like Sam Cummings looked for... They are worth too much to just melt down and will show up somewhere in the future. Just like the Chinese Mausers brought into North Carolina years ago. Negotiations will continue...

Unfortunately, no. Dumpsters of Soviet Russian TT-33 and Makarov pistols, and US 1911A1 pistols gone to the cruncher.

Sam Cummings and his business model have both been dead
for decades.

Kyrie · 02-07-2019, 04:54 PM

Knew I had at least one photo of the Makarov pistols on the way to the cruncher, just took me a while to remember where I'd filed it:

Eugen · 02-08-2019, 07:20 PM

Kyrie, I'd thank you for sharing those photos of destroyed firearms...but I am too busy crying and grieving.

Kyrie · 02-09-2019, 08:07 PM

I can empathize, but GCA '68 pretty much killed the importation of military surplus firearms into the USA. If it wasn't commercial w/sporting use, or police with sporting use, it wasn't importable into the US.

It wasn't until 1986, with the Firearm Owners' Protection Act, and policy changes at the Federal level, that we once more began to see some limited amount of what used to be called "military surplus" firearms. And even then the point system and minimum feature requirements remained in effect (which is why all the TT-33s imported after '86 had safeties installed).

Sharpsdressed Man · 02-09-2019, 09:46 PM

Right, but the later restrictions placed on "weapons of war" against China (by Clinton) and Russia (by Obama) stopped Makarovs and other Com-bloc weapons from otherwise legal import. Trump could reverse those orders, if he was made aware and saw fit to do so.

ilikelugers · 04-11-2019, 08:01 PM

I would love to have a few of those MG42s

they would be an awesome tool for taking down unwanted farm silos!

https://youtu.be/EzKvwYt3Zyg

01-30-2019, 08:52 PM	#25
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,761 Thanks: 4,863 Thanked 3,101 Times in 1,427 Posts	Venezuela could use them right about now. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

01-31-2019, 02:29 AM	#26
hayhugh User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Florida/Penna Posts: 885 Thanks: 851 Thanked 508 Times in 271 Posts	Buy T-33 here, scroll down to second item: https://mailchi.mp/aimsurplus/new-sh...s?e=cee4516609 Last edited by hayhugh; 01-31-2019 at 02:47 AM. Reason: Too much info

02-08-2019, 07:20 PM	#34
Eugen User Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Newburgh,IN Posts: 768 Thanks: 371 Thanked 602 Times in 320 Posts	Kyrie, I'd thank you for sharing those photos of destroyed firearms...but I am too busy crying and grieving. __________________ “God created war so that Americans would learn geography.” ― Mark Twain

01-30-2019, 12:16 PM	#22
MW2152 User Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 50 Thanks: 11 Thanked 35 Times in 20 Posts	Yep, thanks! My point was that they could not currently be imported in that configuration anyway

01-30-2019, 06:07 PM	#23
k98mike User Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Newnan, GA Posts: 141 Thanks: 280 Thanked 48 Times in 30 Posts	Can they not be imported because they are in Russia?

02-06-2019, 11:51 PM	#30
Diver6106 User Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Mt. Vernon VA Posts: 244 Thanks: 1,420 Thanked 117 Times in 75 Posts	That's what people like Sam Cummings looked for... They are worth too much to just melt down and will show up somewhere in the future. Just like the Chinese Mausers brought into North Carolina years ago. Negotiations will continue...

02-07-2019, 02:44 AM	#31
hayhugh User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Florida/Penna Posts: 885 Thanks: 851 Thanked 508 Times in 271 Posts	A good substitute: https://www.classicfirearms.com/yugo...-surplus-9rd/?

02-07-2019, 04:54 PM	#33
Kyrie User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 757 Thanks: 0 Thanked 212 Times in 101 Posts	Knew I had at least one photo of the Makarov pistols on the way to the cruncher, just took me a while to remember where I'd filed it:

02-09-2019, 08:07 PM	#35
Kyrie User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 757 Thanks: 0 Thanked 212 Times in 101 Posts	I can empathize, but GCA '68 pretty much killed the importation of military surplus firearms into the USA. If it wasn't commercial w/sporting use, or police with sporting use, it wasn't importable into the US. It wasn't until 1986, with the Firearm Owners' Protection Act, and policy changes at the Federal level, that we once more began to see some limited amount of what used to be called "military surplus" firearms. And even then the point system and minimum feature requirements remained in effect (which is why all the TT-33s imported after '86 had safeties installed).

02-09-2019, 09:46 PM	#36
Sharpsdressed Man User Join Date: Sep 2018 Posts: 34 Thanks: 0 Thanked 15 Times in 7 Posts	Right, but the later restrictions placed on "weapons of war" against China (by Clinton) and Russia (by Obama) stopped Makarovs and other Com-bloc weapons from otherwise legal import. Trump could reverse those orders, if he was made aware and saw fit to do so.

04-11-2019, 08:01 PM	#37
ilikelugers User Join Date: Feb 2019 Posts: 9 Thanks: 2 Thanked 6 Times in 1 Post	I would love to have a few of those MG42s they would be an awesome tool for taking down unwanted farm silos! https://youtu.be/EzKvwYt3Zyg