1918 dwm value - Page 2

alanint · 07-27-2016, 11:56 AM

The holster is a GI private purchase. The RZM marked clasp was added to it later, as the original design adjustment buckle made it harder to remove the holster with gear on. I agree that it is an SA dagger hanger clasp.

This is not an issue item and should not be priced as such. Between the pistol, holster and the yet to be seen magazines, you paid in the high end of retail, but you weren't seriously hurt.

rhuff · 07-27-2016, 01:40 PM

Congrats on your "new" Luger. You have what is considered a shooter grade 1918 DWM Luger. Due to the rust/pitting, heavy buffing, and rebluing, it no longer has collector value. That is not a bad thing for one's first Luger. Learn about it's inner workings, clean and lube it, and then take it to the range and enjoy. Lugers are fun shooters. Welcome to the forum.

csiford01 · 07-27-2016, 09:11 PM

Ok here are the mag pictures.. And I tried to put a p38 magazine in the holster it wouldn't fit it's too wide

csiford01 · 07-27-2016, 09:13 PM

Bottoms

csiford01 · 07-27-2016, 09:36 PM

Closer

csiford01 · 07-27-2016, 09:39 PM

The only other one that I have found markings on

csiford01 · 07-27-2016, 10:35 PM

Tried out my 1911 in the holster and that's as far as it would go same with my fathers colt

csiford01 · 07-27-2016, 10:37 PM

Now this is what it looks like with a mag and the Luger in the holster ... It fits like a glove

DonVoigt · 07-27-2016, 11:06 PM

Yours is a 1911 STYLE holster, made for a luger.
Commonly made in Europe for various pistols post WWII.

csiford01 · 07-27-2016, 11:57 PM

Ok sweet thanks !! Any information on the mags? I think at least one is a ww2 mag but I'm not sure about any of the others

DonVoigt · 07-28-2016, 01:19 PM

You have shown the base of a mauser magazine(eagle 63) and a Portuguese luger magazine, the one with the markings and wood base.

Eugen · 07-28-2016, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

You have shown the base of a mauser magazine(eagle 63) and a Portuguese luger magazine, the one with the markings and wood base.

Good job, Don, but can you identify the one with the base that looks like marbled white chocolate?

George Anderson · 07-28-2016, 01:30 PM

You seem to have one post war commercial mag, maybe Erma. There appear to be two WWII era mags with modern replacement bottoms and two Imperial era wooden based mags. They all have some value. Your purchase was a good one for the money.

kurusu · 07-28-2016, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

You have shown the base of a mauser magazine(eagle 63) and a Portuguese luger magazine, the one with the markings and wood base.

The one with the markings is not Portuguese.

lugerholsterrepair · 07-28-2016, 05:45 PM

but can you identify the one with the base that looks like marbled white chocolate? I suspect it was made by the "Franzite" company they made Luger grips too.

mrerick · 07-28-2016, 07:21 PM

The magazine in the far right in your first mag picture might be a Swiss Luger magazine. Is there a letter "P" stamped on it?

Welcome to the forum!

Marc

csiford01 · 07-28-2016, 07:51 PM

Picture of the far right one

csiford01 · 07-28-2016, 07:52 PM

And for some reason it posted the picture upside down haha it looks like a cursive P

GerColctor · 08-10-2016, 04:50 PM

Holster was not issued German equipment. A rework, most likely by the GI either while in Europe or when he returned to the States. Americans in the 1940-40-50s were fascinated with shoulder holsters, just look how often they appeared in the period movies.

07-27-2016, 11:56 AM	#21
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	The holster is a GI private purchase. The RZM marked clasp was added to it later, as the original design adjustment buckle made it harder to remove the holster with gear on. I agree that it is an SA dagger hanger clasp. This is not an issue item and should not be priced as such. Between the pistol, holster and the yet to be seen magazines, you paid in the high end of retail, but you weren't seriously hurt. Attached Images

07-27-2016, 09:11 PM	#23
csiford01 User Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 19 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ok here are the mag pictures.. And I tried to put a p38 magazine in the holster it wouldn't fit it's too wide Attached Thumbnails

07-27-2016, 09:13 PM	#24
csiford01 User Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 19 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Bottoms Attached Thumbnails

07-27-2016, 09:36 PM	#25
csiford01 User Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 19 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Closer Attached Thumbnails

07-27-2016, 09:39 PM	#26
csiford01 User Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 19 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The only other one that I have found markings on Attached Thumbnails

07-27-2016, 01:40 PM	#22
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,274 Thanks: 2,693 Thanked 960 Times in 706 Posts	Congrats on your "new" Luger. You have what is considered a shooter grade 1918 DWM Luger. Due to the rust/pitting, heavy buffing, and rebluing, it no longer has collector value. That is not a bad thing for one's first Luger. Learn about it's inner workings, clean and lube it, and then take it to the range and enjoy. Lugers are fun shooters. Welcome to the forum.

07-27-2016, 10:35 PM	#27
csiford01 User Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 19 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Tried out my 1911 in the holster and that's as far as it would go same with my fathers colt Attached Thumbnails

07-27-2016, 10:37 PM	#28
csiford01 User Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 19 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Now this is what it looks like with a mag and the Luger in the holster ... It fits like a glove Attached Thumbnails

07-27-2016, 11:06 PM	#29
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,678 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,348 Times in 2,038 Posts	Yours is a 1911 STYLE holster, made for a luger. Commonly made in Europe for various pistols post WWII. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

07-27-2016, 11:57 PM	#30
csiford01 User Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 19 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ok sweet thanks !! Any information on the mags? I think at least one is a ww2 mag but I'm not sure about any of the others

07-28-2016, 01:19 PM	#31
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,678 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,348 Times in 2,038 Posts	You have shown the base of a mauser magazine(eagle 63) and a Portuguese luger magazine, the one with the markings and wood base. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

07-28-2016, 01:30 PM	#33
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,527 Times in 786 Posts	You seem to have one post war commercial mag, maybe Erma. There appear to be two WWII era mags with modern replacement bottoms and two Imperial era wooden based mags. They all have some value. Your purchase was a good one for the money.

07-28-2016, 05:45 PM	#35
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,763 Thanks: 4,866 Thanked 3,105 Times in 1,429 Posts	but can you identify the one with the base that looks like marbled white chocolate? I suspect it was made by the "Franzite" company they made Luger grips too. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

07-28-2016, 07:21 PM	#36
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,901 Thanks: 1,372 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	The magazine in the far right in your first mag picture might be a Swiss Luger magazine. Is there a letter "P" stamped on it? Welcome to the forum! Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

07-28-2016, 07:51 PM	#37
csiford01 User Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 19 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Picture of the far right one Attached Thumbnails

07-28-2016, 07:52 PM	#38
csiford01 User Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 19 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	And for some reason it posted the picture upside down haha it looks like a cursive P

08-10-2016, 04:50 PM	#39
GerColctor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: CT & FL Posts: 308 Thanks: 2 Thanked 40 Times in 27 Posts	Holster was not issued German equipment. A rework, most likely by the GI either while in Europe or when he returned to the States. Americans in the 1940-40-50s were fascinated with shoulder holsters, just look how often they appeared in the period movies. __________________ It is better to have lived a day as a tiger, then a thousand years as a lamb.