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Unread 10-03-2013, 09:35 AM   #21
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This is not meant as a personal attack so please don't take it that way.

"I am one, and I take credit for everything each person who works for me does, and my boss does the same to me - so what?"

And you don't see anything wrong with that??

There's taking credit for the work or ideas of another person and then there's sharing credit for the ideas of others when you as a ( say ) a project manager helped facilitate the cooperative atmosphere and resource acquisition that helps get the job done. If one is just a hands off boss who merely signs time cards ( and I'm NOT saying you are)
that person has no moral right to share anything in my opinion.
Marketing often happens after an idea is born so sharing credit there is questionable.

I've been a developer for years and good managers don't take credit for the work of others; they may benefit financially because they're viewed as successful at what they do based on the success of their teams but unless they're a hands on manager they don't take nor deserve credit for an idea that isn't theirs. The company will own the idea and patent it but credit for it is assigned to the person or team that developed it. That team usually includes the manager but after some discussion.
When a patentable idea was developed in my team all those associated with its development were given patent credit ( I was not part of that development and rightfully was not listed) even though the idea was the brainchild of the head of the business side. Members of my team brought that idea to reality.

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Eric,

Kenyon presented this patent in an old "Gun Report" column. It was presumably filed to protect an alternate positioning of the toggle knobs. The article profiled a pistol manfactured to this design, although there is no documentation of its construction or evidence of a patent model being made.

I have examined a second pistol (differing in some physical details from the Kenyon example) purporting to be the 1904 patent model, which was clearly a modern modification of a standard Old Model Parabellum.

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"I am one, and I take credit for everything each person who works for me does, and my boss does the same to me - so what?"

And you don't see anything wrong with that??
Jerry,

I see where what I said could be taken wrong way. I'm not in the commercial world, so please allow me to clarify what I meant. I work for the US Navy, we have a thing called chain of command. Essentially that means I am responsible for everything each member of my team does - success or failure, I get the credit and the blame. I don't even have a choice.

Having said that, I can appreciate what you are saying and I think you make good points. I admit I exaggerated just a bit - what I said certainly does not apply to stealing patents, which is where GL may have crossed the line.

Between you and me...
I'm not your typical clueless/useless manager - worked my way up into this for 20 years. I am a "hands-on" manger of Naval Aviation flight simulator & training systems. My team does nothing without my direction and involvement, as I am a control freak. I was thinking GL was the same type of manger and maybe we should cut him a little slack.

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