1941 byf Questions - Page 2

Lyn Islaub · 01-12-2006, 05:56 PM

Lot's of good dialogue here, so I'll put in my 2 cents worth. I believe the matching magazine aspect much more valuable than matching grips, as I've never been able to come up a matching mag among the dozen or so I've on the lookout for the last 10 years.. On the other side of the coin I've purchased very nice E655 proofed grips from Tom Heller and Leon De Spain in the last year or so with out breaking the bank. Also, about 3 weeks ago I picked up a 80-85% blue byf 41 in the "q" block that is all matching with a matching magazine. It had black grips, that are not repros, but according to Frank Manders not correct for the "q" block, so I replaced them with E655 proofed wood grips. I paid a little over $800 for the byf, if that helps Captain Emo guage the market any better.

Lyn

Herb · 01-12-2006, 06:10 PM

I heartily agree with that. I have all but the last magazine list from Don Hallock with over 4,000 listed mags available, and not a single one that I need.

Captain Emo · 01-12-2006, 08:53 PM

So, unless I get this one for a bargain price (which I likely won't) then I pass?

I will pull the grips and pray that I see some sort of markings.

Frank · 01-13-2006, 08:17 AM

Herb, I think that most of the byf Lugers beyond the U, V & W Suffix were shipped with either non-numbered aluminum or plastic bottom fxo magazines. While these are not matching (no numbers) they are certainly "proper" and legit magazines for late byf 41 and all byf 42 Lugers. I have seen a small number of numbered plastic bottom fxo magazines, but I've never seen one with a suffix. They could be Police Magazines or just a No Suffix Type

Ed, regarding prices; I know that there are some dealers that are charging big bucks for their Lugers, but to say these are going prices might be a stretch. Over the past few months, I have purchased a 98% byf 41 and a 95% 1937, strawed small parts, Mauser Hump for MUCH less than the dealer prices. I have also sold a pretty nice early 1936 for MUCH less than dealer prices. So if you keep your eyes open, the decent prices are still out there. If you in a hurry, then you'll have to pay the BIG BUCKS!!!!

Captain Emo · 01-13-2006, 08:23 AM

Gentlemen, I am visiting the seller this morning. I will bring a camera. I will post pics of both guns. I figure he will ask somewhere around $900-$1100 for the byf and $1200-$1600 for the 1937 S/42 with holster.

I appreciate all of the information. I have save my funds for a good Luger, and a good Luger is what I want.

Speaking of prices, I am hesitant to use online prices. Here in the midwest, the sellers that ask online prices usually have their guns for several shows.

thegundude · 01-13-2006, 08:27 AM

Emo, good luck in your quest.

Captain Emo · 01-13-2006, 01:02 PM

I got some pictures and more details. I will post them shortly.

Captain Emo · 01-13-2006, 10:00 PM

I looked at them today. He is taking them to a show in the morning.

The byf grips are not correct. The mag is a milled wAA37. What do you think?

Captain Emo · 01-13-2006, 10:00 PM

and

Captain Emo · 01-13-2006, 10:01 PM

and . . .

Captain Emo · 01-13-2006, 10:02 PM

That is the byf.

Captain Emo · 01-13-2006, 10:03 PM

The S/42 is the plum finish that I do not like. It is all matching but for the mag and there is a holster.

Captain Emo · 01-13-2006, 10:04 PM

and . ..

Captain Emo · 01-13-2006, 10:06 PM

the plum . . .

Captain Emo · 01-14-2006, 08:54 AM

Any thoughts on the grips? I was going to meet him at the show.

Captain Emo · 01-14-2006, 07:13 PM

I went to the show and met him. He still had both Lugers. I left without making him an offer. I did explain that I was interested in making him an offer. I will offer $850 and see what happens.

Lyn Islaub · 01-14-2006, 09:13 PM

Emo,
What is the seller asking for the 1937?? If you're not interested in the 1937, I would like to talk to the seller. Can you PM me a contact number?
Thx, Lyn

Captain Emo · 01-14-2006, 09:18 PM

He wanted $1650 for the pistol, magazine and holster. Still interested?

01-12-2006, 06:10 PM	#22
Herb User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Utah, in the land of the Sleeping Rainbow Posts: 1,457 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I heartily agree with that. I have all but the last magazine list from Don Hallock with over 4,000 listed mags available, and not a single one that I need. __________________ Utah, where gun control means a steady trigger pull

01-13-2006, 08:27 AM	#26
thegundude User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Western NC Posts: 1,137 Thanks: 3 Thanked 16 Times in 3 Posts	Emo, good luck in your quest. __________________ Keep your knees in the breeze and your iron in the air. ~Steve

01-13-2006, 10:00 PM	#28
Captain Emo User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Mid-West Posts: 111 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I looked at them today. He is taking them to a show in the morning. The byf grips are not correct. The mag is a milled wAA37. What do you think? Attached Thumbnails

01-13-2006, 10:00 PM	#29
Captain Emo User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Mid-West Posts: 111 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	and Attached Thumbnails

01-13-2006, 10:01 PM	#30
Captain Emo User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Mid-West Posts: 111 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	and . . . Attached Thumbnails

01-12-2006, 05:56 PM	#21
Lyn Islaub Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 435 Thanks: 3 Thanked 152 Times in 72 Posts	Lot's of good dialogue here, so I'll put in my 2 cents worth. I believe the matching magazine aspect much more valuable than matching grips, as I've never been able to come up a matching mag among the dozen or so I've on the lookout for the last 10 years.. On the other side of the coin I've purchased very nice E655 proofed grips from Tom Heller and Leon De Spain in the last year or so with out breaking the bank. Also, about 3 weeks ago I picked up a 80-85% blue byf 41 in the "q" block that is all matching with a matching magazine. It had black grips, that are not repros, but according to Frank Manders not correct for the "q" block, so I replaced them with E655 proofed wood grips. I paid a little over $800 for the byf, if that helps Captain Emo guage the market any better. Lyn

01-12-2006, 08:53 PM	#23
Captain Emo User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Mid-West Posts: 111 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	So, unless I get this one for a bargain price (which I likely won't) then I pass? I will pull the grips and pray that I see some sort of markings.

01-13-2006, 08:17 AM	#24
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Herb, I think that most of the byf Lugers beyond the U, V & W Suffix were shipped with either non-numbered aluminum or plastic bottom fxo magazines. While these are not matching (no numbers) they are certainly "proper" and legit magazines for late byf 41 and all byf 42 Lugers. I have seen a small number of numbered plastic bottom fxo magazines, but I've never seen one with a suffix. They could be Police Magazines or just a No Suffix Type Ed, regarding prices; I know that there are some dealers that are charging big bucks for their Lugers, but to say these are going prices might be a stretch. Over the past few months, I have purchased a 98% byf 41 and a 95% 1937, strawed small parts, Mauser Hump for MUCH less than the dealer prices. I have also sold a pretty nice early 1936 for MUCH less than dealer prices. So if you keep your eyes open, the decent prices are still out there. If you in a hurry, then you'll have to pay the BIG BUCKS!!!!

01-13-2006, 08:23 AM	#25
Captain Emo User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Mid-West Posts: 111 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Gentlemen, I am visiting the seller this morning. I will bring a camera. I will post pics of both guns. I figure he will ask somewhere around $900-$1100 for the byf and $1200-$1600 for the 1937 S/42 with holster. I appreciate all of the information. I have save my funds for a good Luger, and a good Luger is what I want. Speaking of prices, I am hesitant to use online prices. Here in the midwest, the sellers that ask online prices usually have their guns for several shows.

01-13-2006, 01:02 PM	#27
Captain Emo User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Mid-West Posts: 111 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I got some pictures and more details. I will post them shortly.

01-13-2006, 10:02 PM	#31
Captain Emo User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Mid-West Posts: 111 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	That is the byf.

01-13-2006, 10:03 PM	#32
Captain Emo User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Mid-West Posts: 111 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The S/42 is the plum finish that I do not like. It is all matching but for the mag and there is a holster. Attached Thumbnails

01-13-2006, 10:04 PM	#33
Captain Emo User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Mid-West Posts: 111 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	and . .. Attached Thumbnails

01-13-2006, 10:06 PM	#34
Captain Emo User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Mid-West Posts: 111 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	the plum . . . Attached Thumbnails

01-14-2006, 08:54 AM	#35
Captain Emo User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Mid-West Posts: 111 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Any thoughts on the grips? I was going to meet him at the show.

01-14-2006, 07:13 PM	#36
Captain Emo User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Mid-West Posts: 111 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I went to the show and met him. He still had both Lugers. I left without making him an offer. I did explain that I was interested in making him an offer. I will offer $850 and see what happens.

01-14-2006, 09:13 PM	#37
Lyn Islaub Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 435 Thanks: 3 Thanked 152 Times in 72 Posts	Emo, What is the seller asking for the 1937?? If you're not interested in the 1937, I would like to talk to the seller. Can you PM me a contact number? Thx, Lyn

01-14-2006, 09:18 PM	#38
Captain Emo User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Mid-West Posts: 111 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	He wanted $1650 for the pistol, magazine and holster. Still interested?