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11-03-2018, 08:33 AM | #21 |
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Imo the engraving looks wonderful. That’s an absolutely gorgeous looking pistol. No idea what the price for that type of gun would be but man I could stare at those pictures all day.
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Hi Bruce, that's a heck of a fancy Luger! If you google 'Roger Crowley vienna wv' you should get some links. Looks like he's 78 now and still living in the same house he always did. He's on Facebook too, looks like he's written a couple of western film history books he's selling...do a FB search on his name...he's the one with the John Wayne picture. All the best!
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Replica Products was just the maker of the wood case, not the pistol. Possibly engraved in Europe post WW2 by a hungry engraver, for a GI, who then had it nickel plated. Tom
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Welcome, Bruce. Just click on the little 'thumbs up" at the bottom, right of any post.
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[QUOTE=Lugerdoc;320487]Replica Products was just the maker of the wood case, not the pistol
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Here are some photos of the case
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Nice old case of Roger's...pics bring back some memories...40+ years ago I used to trim and glue the material on partitions, got paid piece rate, maybe even helped on yours. That's a real nice pistol and case set!
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That is probably the most elaborately engraved firearm of any type I've seen. Not that I focus on engraved guns, or know much about them.
The style of work and it's depth is particularly striking. Also the use of stippling and the design may be a visual signature of an individual engraver. Anyone recognize the style, or where it was likely done? European with the oak leaves? I don't see numbering in places you'd expect to find a military Luger marked, so it's possible that this started out as a commercial Luger. Is it in .30 Luger caliber or 9mm?
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I see a matching, commercial numbering style, take down lever-I think, hard to make out the number. It also looks like the bottom of the side plate is numbered in commercial style but I cant make out what number is on it at all.
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Your right. The numbers are 45, last two numbers of the serial number 3945.
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What is the caliber and barrel length?
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Sometimes engravers will sign or at least initial their work on the firearm somewhere. Most will be fairly discrete(usually in the engraved area itself) in nature.
Deep relief cut engraving is almost a lost art due to a lot of things. Takes a keen eye with magnification to tell what is there from a quality point of view. One of the most deeply engraved pistols that I have ever touched was a factory engraved automag in 44amp. Engraving was deep enough to mark my hands after gripping the pistol. No idea of who did such, but probably on the net somewhere. The only other firearm that I have handled was a 40x with deep scroll, I thought sure it was European done, but the owner introduced me to the engraver at that gunshow, the engraver was Vietnamese..............he knew the work, a fine set of scrolls he did. |
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Well. Seems to have the makings of an alphabet commercial but one with a 9mm and 4” barrel (most common versions have 3 5/8 or so barrel and .30 caliber based on the wonderful list compiled on this forum). Looks very nice, enjoy it.
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Hi, well from what I can find there are no markings to indicate who the engraver is but I still have another book to go through to see if I can identify the style. I believe the gun is a DWM alphabet commercial, suffix Q. Does that make it around 1927?.
I have been in touch with Roger Crowley, thanks Outlaw 6, and he said he would have built the case sometime in the 1980s but has no info on the gun. He said his Luger cases were his most popular. I know it is very difficult to do so, but with the knowledge on this forum, and it is not for sale but would anyone have an idea on the value. I still have a lot more reading and research to do when I can get the time but the wealth of information on this site is a credit to you all. I'll put up another couple of photos trying to identify the gun. Thanks for all your help Cheers Bruce |
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Can anyone verify that I have read the Q suffix correctly? And does that make it around 1927?
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