Need Help Identifing New Purchase - Page 2

mrerick · 01-17-2013, 04:13 PM

Tom, I'm in the RTP / Triangle area.
Marc

Lugerdoc · 01-19-2013, 11:33 AM

Tom, Other than the last 2 digits of the serial oon the lower edge of the side plate & TD lever, all other commerical small parts will not be numbered. Your barrel, if original (probably 7.65mm) should at least be C/N proofed and possibly have the full serial on the bottom. If not, the 9mm barrel may be a later replacement. TH

Tarheeltom · 01-19-2013, 05:14 PM

Mr. Heller: The entire gun, interior parts as well as exterior, looks absolutely unused and brand new. I don't understand why anyone would change the barrel on a gun of this condition. Also why the lower edge of the side plate and take down lever are not numbered is still a mystery to me.
Tom

lugerholsterrepair · 01-19-2013, 05:50 PM

why anyone would change the barrel on a gun of this condition is easily answered. It was originally a .30 Luger and the owner wanted to change it to a 9mm.

lugersrkewl · 01-19-2013, 06:33 PM

a commercial dwm with suffix n under serial would put it between 1923-1925 and make it an alphabet commercial. looks brand new. brand new..... does it have a sear safety?doesnt look like it from the pics, is there a hole for a sear safety? the side plate take down and bbl were possibly replaced. maybe it was shot with corrosive ammo and stored separately from the sideplate and takedown
beautiful gun

Tarheeltom · 01-19-2013, 08:46 PM

Hey guys: I guess I don't know what I have but it is like a new gun that I will put in my safe and shoot, which I do, my other lugers which I love.
Tom

Lugerdoc · 01-20-2013, 05:21 PM

Tom, It's impossible to tell for sure without physically inspecting your luger, but here are a few facts to consider: An unproofed 9mm barrel on a commerical luger was probably in violation of the Versailles Treaty, and without some police or military acceptance markings is unlikely to be FACTORY original. It's quite possible that either Stoeger or Pacific Arms Corp. may have added the 9mm barrel on arrival here in the USA, or it may have been added last week. I alway question lugers with perfect finish including the straw on a 90+ year old luger. THis just doesn't happen. Tom H.

01-17-2013, 04:13 PM	#21
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	Tom, I'm in the RTP / Triangle area. Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

01-19-2013, 11:33 AM	#22
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Tom, Other than the last 2 digits of the serial oon the lower edge of the side plate & TD lever, all other commerical small parts will not be numbered. Your barrel, if original (probably 7.65mm) should at least be C/N proofed and possibly have the full serial on the bottom. If not, the 9mm barrel may be a later replacement. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

01-19-2013, 05:50 PM	#24
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,931 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	why anyone would change the barrel on a gun of this condition is easily answered. It was originally a .30 Luger and the owner wanted to change it to a 9mm. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

01-20-2013, 05:21 PM	#27
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Tom, It's impossible to tell for sure without physically inspecting your luger, but here are a few facts to consider: An unproofed 9mm barrel on a commerical luger was probably in violation of the Versailles Treaty, and without some police or military acceptance markings is unlikely to be FACTORY original. It's quite possible that either Stoeger or Pacific Arms Corp. may have added the 9mm barrel on arrival here in the USA, or it may have been added last week. I alway question lugers with perfect finish including the straw on a 90+ year old luger. THis just doesn't happen. Tom H. __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

01-19-2013, 05:14 PM	#23
Tarheeltom User Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Mr. Heller: The entire gun, interior parts as well as exterior, looks absolutely unused and brand new. I don't understand why anyone would change the barrel on a gun of this condition. Also why the lower edge of the side plate and take down lever are not numbered is still a mystery to me. Tom

01-19-2013, 06:33 PM	#25
lugersrkewl Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ussr Posts: 425 Thanks: 198 Thanked 75 Times in 58 Posts	a commercial dwm with suffix n under serial would put it between 1923-1925 and make it an alphabet commercial. looks brand new. brand new..... does it have a sear safety?doesnt look like it from the pics, is there a hole for a sear safety? the side plate take down and bbl were possibly replaced. maybe it was shot with corrosive ammo and stored separately from the sideplate and takedown beautiful gun

01-19-2013, 08:46 PM	#26
Tarheeltom User Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hey guys: I guess I don't know what I have but it is like a new gun that I will put in my safe and shoot, which I do, my other lugers which I love. Tom