Why no love for this 1902 AE? - Page 2

Norme · 04-29-2012, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by alvin

I noticed there are many tricks in gun advertisements. For example, "98%" without key word "original", or "original" without key word "matching", or just posting some pictures with minimum text description, "I don't know, you tell me" -

Since it lost the original windowed grip panel, I would think it's a regular 1902 fat barrel with mismatched grip panels.... probably plus some amount due to the s/n.

Is the situation like a "Party Leader" PPK without the eagle grips, except the s/n range being known in this scenario?

Hi Alvin, I don't collect these guns but I do know that their frames differ from those of regular AEs. The internal web has been machined away so that the slot in the magazine is visible through the grip. Regards, Norm

Vlim · 04-29-2012, 09:44 AM

Like this:

alvin · 04-29-2012, 12:24 PM

Thanks! Frame modification a great point. I feel this CC is most likely real.

Dwight Gruber · 05-01-2012, 11:00 AM

From the photos, the front of the frame and the serial numbers make me queasy.

--Dwight

CJS57 · 05-01-2012, 01:36 PM

True! But.....What about the barrel? Doesn't it look ok with matching number?

Dwight Gruber · 05-01-2012, 07:29 PM

Queasy. no.

--Dwight

Hugo Borchardt · 05-03-2012, 09:13 AM

Cc mag on GB legit? Item http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=284341470

Ron Wood · 05-03-2012, 11:06 AM

Nope. Might be for one of the 1970s Mauser commemoratives since the index pin is so far down from the top of the magazine. I don't think the frame of the Mauser repros were modified. It certainly isn't a $1600 item.

cirelaw · 05-03-2012, 11:24 AM

Can anyone explain how it works? Is there a special mag. Can the number be duplicated. Yes I,m very jeolous!!

Hugo Borchardt · 05-03-2012, 03:40 PM

Ron:

You are the man.

Clark

cirelaw · 05-03-2012, 03:58 PM

Thats one gun after which there is no other luger. Yea! Maybe I'll hit the lottery. What do you consider second place?? 1900 GL Presentation excluded for obvious reasons!~

cirelaw · 05-03-2012, 04:13 PM

Is it correct?

Ron Wood · 05-03-2012, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by cirelaw

Is it correct?

If by correct you mean is it an original 1902 Cartridge Counter holster, of course not. It is a modern holster, probably from the late '70s made by Hunter. You can see the trade mark on the back of the holster.

cirelaw · 05-03-2012, 05:58 PM

Thank You Ron!!

04-29-2012, 09:44 AM	#22
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,987 Times in 1,205 Posts	Like this: Attached Thumbnails

05-03-2012, 09:13 AM	#27
Hugo Borchardt User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tennessee Posts: 370 Thanks: 338 Thanked 133 Times in 47 Posts	Cc mag on GB legit? Item http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=284341470 __________________ My militaria collection is dedicated to the memory of my Grandfather, Marine Gunnery Sergeant Dave Hill, Jr., wounded in action at The Assault of the Second Marine Division on Betio Island, Tarawa Atoll, 20-23 November, 1943. http://www.tarawa1943.com/pages/casualties%20tarawa.htm

05-03-2012, 11:06 AM	#28
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,005 Thanks: 1,087 Thanked 5,139 Times in 1,689 Posts	Nope. Might be for one of the 1970s Mauser commemoratives since the index pin is so far down from the top of the magazine. I don't think the frame of the Mauser repros were modified. It certainly isn't a $1600 item. Attached Images __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

05-03-2012, 03:40 PM	#30
Hugo Borchardt User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tennessee Posts: 370 Thanks: 338 Thanked 133 Times in 47 Posts	Ron: You are the man. Clark __________________ My militaria collection is dedicated to the memory of my Grandfather, Marine Gunnery Sergeant Dave Hill, Jr., wounded in action at The Assault of the Second Marine Division on Betio Island, Tarawa Atoll, 20-23 November, 1943. http://www.tarawa1943.com/pages/casualties%20tarawa.htm

05-03-2012, 04:13 PM	#32
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Ron, The Counter on GB has a holster Is it correct? Attached Images

04-29-2012, 12:24 PM	#23
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	Thanks! Frame modification a great point. I feel this CC is most likely real.

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Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,893 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,288 Times in 426 Posts	From the photos, the front of the frame and the serial numbers make me queasy. --Dwight

05-01-2012, 01:36 PM	#25
CJS57 User Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 224 Thanks: 0 Thanked 81 Times in 41 Posts	True! But.....What about the barrel? Doesn't it look ok with matching number?

05-01-2012, 07:29 PM	#26
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,893 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,288 Times in 426 Posts	Queasy. no. --Dwight

05-03-2012, 11:24 AM	#29
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Can anyone explain how it works? Is there a special mag. Can the number be duplicated. Yes I,m very jeolous!!

05-03-2012, 03:58 PM	#31
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Thats one gun after which there is no other luger. Yea! Maybe I'll hit the lottery. What do you consider second place?? 1900 GL Presentation excluded for obvious reasons!~

05-03-2012, 05:58 PM	#34
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Thats it, Thank You Ron!!