My New Luger... - Page 2

Big Norm · 08-20-2003, 01:48 AM

Pete,
while looking at my consecutive number M2's, I noticed that my lowest number (sn2870) is only four numbers off of yours.

Are holsters for these guns supposed to be brown or black? I noticed that our friend on GunBroker from Corpus Cove, Texas has two black ones for sale. "Lugers at Random" has a picture of one that might be brown.
Big Norm

Ron Wood · 08-20-2003, 02:55 AM

Black

Big Norm · 08-20-2003, 02:24 PM

I just got done looking at Pete's pictures on his M2. Nice rig. While I was looking at his holster, I could not see the S.E. marking on the lid. He said that it is there, I just could not see it. Is this marking supposed to be embossed or ink stamped? Does anybody have a picture of it?
Big Norm

Doubs · 08-20-2003, 02:25 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Big Norm: Are holsters for these guns supposed to be brown or black? Big Norm<hr /></blockquote>I have two. One is all black and of solid leather. The other appears to have a solid back but the flap and front may be a sandwich of leather. The back on the second one is brown while the front is black. I've had the second one for 25 years or longer and it's undoubedly original. I've sent pictures of both to LugerHolsterRepair.

Doubs · 08-20-2003, 02:27 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Big Norm:
I just got done looking at Pete's pictures on his M2. Nice rig. While I was looking at his holster, I could not see the S.E. marking on the lid. Big Norm<hr /></blockquote>Norm, the stamp should be "AE". Both of my holsters are deeply stamped with "AE" into the leather.

Big Norm · 08-20-2003, 03:07 PM

Doubs,
I noticed the sandwiching of leather on Petes holster. I wonder if there would be variants of this holsters coloring. These holsters were produced about the same time as the German army mandated that holsters would be black. So I wonder if some holsters might have been delivered brown and some may have missed the dying process while others may have been delivered black.
Big Norm

Doubs · 08-20-2003, 05:24 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Big Norm:
Doubs, I noticed the sandwiching of leather on Petes holster. I wonder if there would be variants of this holsters coloring. These holsters were produced about the same time as the German army mandated that holsters would be black. So I wonder if some holsters might have been delivered brown and some may have missed the dying process while others may have been delivered black. Big Norm<hr /></blockquote>Norm, there's a distinct possibility that the "sandwich" holster I have was originally made in brown. I say this for two reason: The interior of the holster is brown (including the flap) and the back has a small streak or two where the black dye ran down the back while being applied. The other holster was always black as far as I can tell.

The "always black" holster is interesting in that the interior of the flap is almost like a suede and has unit markings and what appears to be some kind of inventory or tracking number deeply stamped into it.... very sharp and easily read. Except for barrel length, it looks identical to the Navy holster that was discussed a week or so back that was on e-bay, IIRC.

Pete Ebbink · 08-20-2003, 05:55 PM

Sorry, Norm...

The "AE" is there on the back. The "A" is lightly struck but the "E" is much deeper. If you look at the back of my holster, it is just to the right of the belt loop's right side.

Next time I get the camera set up, I will try to take a better shot of the "AE"...and will add to the Member's Gallery posting.

Regards,

Pete...

Pete Ebbink · 08-21-2003, 12:53 AM

Hello Again, Norm...

I have mailed the 7 pages from E. Bender's book on Portuguese leather & accessories to you today. You should see it by Monday at the latest at your home.

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

Big Norm · 08-21-2003, 07:38 PM

Thanks Pete. Maybe its time that El Cheapo Norm got a Benders book. Except for artillery holsters I never paid much attention to holsters. I always bought the gun and if it came with a holster, fine and dandy.
Big Norm

08-20-2003, 02:55 AM	#22
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08-20-2003, 02:25 PM	#24
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,694 Thanks: 792 Thanked 1,676 Times in 550 Posts	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by Big Norm:<strong> Are holsters for these guns supposed to be brown or black? Big Norm</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">I have two. One is all black and of solid leather. The other appears to have a solid back but the flap and front may be a sandwich of leather. The back on the second one is brown while the front is black. I've had the second one for 25 years or longer and it's undoubedly original. I've sent pictures of both to LugerHolsterRepair.

08-20-2003, 02:27 PM	#25
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,694 Thanks: 792 Thanked 1,676 Times in 550 Posts	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by Big Norm: <strong>I just got done looking at Pete's pictures on his M2. Nice rig. While I was looking at his holster, I could not see the S.E. marking on the lid. Big Norm</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Norm, the stamp should be "AE". Both of my holsters are deeply stamped with "AE" into the leather.

08-20-2003, 05:24 PM	#27
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,694 Thanks: 792 Thanked 1,676 Times in 550 Posts	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by Big Norm: <strong>Doubs, I noticed the sandwiching of leather on Petes holster. I wonder if there would be variants of this holsters coloring. These holsters were produced about the same time as the German army mandated that holsters would be black. So I wonder if some holsters might have been delivered brown and some may have missed the dying process while others may have been delivered black. Big Norm</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Norm, there's a distinct possibility that the "sandwich" holster I have was originally made in brown. I say this for two reason: The interior of the holster is brown (including the flap) and the back has a small streak or two where the black dye ran down the back while being applied. The other holster was always black as far as I can tell. The "always black" holster is interesting in that the interior of the flap is almost like a suede and has unit markings and what appears to be some kind of inventory or tracking number deeply stamped into it.... very sharp and easily read. Except for barrel length, it looks identical to the Navy holster that was discussed a week or so back that was on e-bay, IIRC.

08-20-2003, 01:48 AM	#21
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Pete, while looking at my consecutive number M2's, I noticed that my lowest number (sn2870) is only four numbers off of yours. Are holsters for these guns supposed to be brown or black? I noticed that our friend on GunBroker from Corpus Cove, Texas has two black ones for sale. "Lugers at Random" has a picture of one that might be brown. Big Norm

08-20-2003, 02:24 PM	#23
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	I just got done looking at Pete's pictures on his M2. Nice rig. While I was looking at his holster, I could not see the S.E. marking on the lid. He said that it is there, I just could not see it. Is this marking supposed to be embossed or ink stamped? Does anybody have a picture of it? Big Norm

08-20-2003, 03:07 PM	#26
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Doubs, I noticed the sandwiching of leather on Petes holster. I wonder if there would be variants of this holsters coloring. These holsters were produced about the same time as the German army mandated that holsters would be black. So I wonder if some holsters might have been delivered brown and some may have missed the dying process while others may have been delivered black. Big Norm

08-20-2003, 05:55 PM	#28
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Sorry, Norm... The "AE" is there on the back. The "A" is lightly struck but the "E" is much deeper. If you look at the back of my holster, it is just to the right of the belt loop's right side. Next time I get the camera set up, I will try to take a better shot of the "AE"...and will add to the Member's Gallery posting. Regards, Pete...

08-21-2003, 12:53 AM	#29
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hello Again, Norm... I have mailed the 7 pages from E. Bender's book on Portuguese leather & accessories to you today. You should see it by Monday at the latest at your home. Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

08-21-2003, 07:38 PM	#30
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Thanks Pete. Maybe its time that El Cheapo Norm got a Benders book. Except for artillery holsters I never paid much attention to holsters. I always bought the gun and if it came with a holster, fine and dandy. Big Norm