Online auctions with horrid photos - Page 2

DonVoigt · 02-05-2016, 01:15 PM

Those were all decent prices for decent pieces; and they may be a nice surprise when
they arrive. I don't think anything was "chased".

Don't "over analyse"! The market is smarter than any one person or collector; and not everyone has
the "common" lugers (pretty obvious from the bids).

One reason they got more attention is the fact that they were posted here!

kurusu · 02-05-2016, 04:57 PM

Maybe you folks think too much.
Pictures were not that bad.
Neither were the prices for that matter.

alvin · 02-05-2016, 06:42 PM

Be honest, I thought about bidding the K a little bit higher. But I am not in domain, if it indeed comes, ,,, , and I shoot a K in range?? That sounds crazy... Or sell it in March or April to earn a little bit money?? Luger guys did not bid today, not because they did not see it, why would they bid in April... There was weird consideration like this, you know. So, let it go unless it's super low. You guys in domain should chase it longer because K is definitely a long-term gun. I agree the K was sold in very modest price. It's not easy to find another one in this price.

Geo99 · 02-05-2016, 11:18 PM

Alvin - a strawed early 1937 S/42 is not that common.

I won the 1937 (#4). It's obviously not the nicest example but the side pictures were horrible (look at how short the safety lever appears). I took a chance on it - I hope it's nicer than the pictures - if not, I needed a nice shooter anyway.

I think they were all a gamble. There was no time to verify all matching or ask them to show more pictures. I bid on this one and on the 41 byf, but I wasn't willing to go any higher due to the unknowns - matching grips, holdopen, FP, bore condition, etc.

Don - did you bid on the "K"? I was going to, but it got too high for me - again considering the unknown factors. I think a fellow member here won it.

- Geo

Geo99 · 02-05-2016, 11:24 PM

Oh and thanks to Tinplatejeff for posting about these auctions! I never would have found them because of the poor titles. I think the seller lost some money by not giving proper title/description and more/better pictures.

I'll post some better pics of it when I get it.

- Geo

Tinplatejeff · 02-05-2016, 11:54 PM

Geo, congrats and you're welcome! Look forward to seeing the pics of the 1937 when you get it.

alvin · 02-06-2016, 05:58 AM

The seller collects Texas sales tax. These guns must come from consignment of one local collector's family. Don't worry too much about matching, I bet it's all matching -- only serious collection has K date in the group.

Gambling? Yes, a little bit. But only when you dare to gamble, you could win, let alone this gambling is not totally blind. Please let us know when it arrives.

kurusu · 02-06-2016, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geo99

Alvin - a strawed early 1937 S/42 is not that common.

I won the 1937 (#4). It's obviously not the nicest example but the side pictures were horrible (look at how short the safety lever appears). I took a chance on it - I hope it's nicer than the pictures - if not, I needed a nice shooter anyway.

I think they were all a gamble. There was no time to verify all matching or ask them to show more pictures. I bid on this one and on the 41 byf, but I wasn't willing to go any higher due to the unknowns - matching grips, holdopen, FP, bore condition, etc.

Don - did you bid on the "K"? I was going to, but it got too high for me - again considering the unknown factors. I think a fellow member here won it.

- Geo

Congratulations on your buy. Seems to be a reasonable example. Looking forward to see better pictures

DonVoigt · 02-06-2016, 07:49 AM

Geo99,

Yes I did, and yes one of the guys here bought the K.
If I were a "serious collector" I would have bid higher on the K.

Alvin,
the descriptions said "matching".

I have very mixed feelings about posting live auctions; one- it does run up interest and ultimately price, but two- you might see one otherwise missed. Like most things, a 2 edged sword!

.

sheepherder · 02-06-2016, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alvin

-- only serious collection has K date in the group...

Not always true. I wrote here about a year ago of a customer in my LGS buying/FFL receiving a K (or was it a G?) and the LGS owner calling me down to look it over and tell the guy what he had (inspection period) - he had no idea. Owner sold it to LGS afterward (K meant nothing to him) and LGS gave it to friend as present.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

I have very mixed feelings about posting live auctions; one- it does run up interest and ultimately price...

I have always posted about auctions/sales I thought would be of interest. I always have a price ceiling and very seldom go over. My own interests are so out of line with others that I am seldom disappointed.

My only concern now is that what interests me does not seem to be offered at present...

Norme · 02-06-2016, 10:11 AM

On the topic of horrid photos, here's a current listing for a Navy magazine with photos that reach a new low. What is strange is that other Luger magazines offered by this same seller have crystal clear photos.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/321999136326...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Norm

alvin · 02-07-2016, 05:59 PM

Compare with this one:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=538889237

====

[Edit] So, hehe....

Auction just finished. But I bet the following nice 1900 might not be able to compete with the previous lousy historical foundation. Market is a weird place. Why? Because it's a separated world. People bidding this won't bid AHF, and people bidding AHF won't bid this

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=539601939

02-05-2016, 01:15 PM	#21
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	Those were all decent prices for decent pieces; and they may be a nice surprise when they arrive. I don't think anything was "chased". Don't "over analyse"! The market is smarter than any one person or collector; and not everyone has the "common" lugers (pretty obvious from the bids). One reason they got more attention is the fact that they were posted here! __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

02-05-2016, 11:18 PM	#24
Geo99 User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Whidbey Island WA Posts: 398 Thanks: 102 Thanked 125 Times in 74 Posts	Alvin - a strawed early 1937 S/42 is not that common. I won the 1937 (#4). It's obviously not the nicest example but the side pictures were horrible (look at how short the safety lever appears). I took a chance on it - I hope it's nicer than the pictures - if not, I needed a nice shooter anyway. I think they were all a gamble. There was no time to verify all matching or ask them to show more pictures. I bid on this one and on the 41 byf, but I wasn't willing to go any higher due to the unknowns - matching grips, holdopen, FP, bore condition, etc. Don - did you bid on the "K"? I was going to, but it got too high for me - again considering the unknown factors. I think a fellow member here won it. - Geo __________________ "Diplomacy is the art of saying nice doggie, until you can find a rock." - Will Rogers

02-05-2016, 11:24 PM	#25
Geo99 User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Whidbey Island WA Posts: 398 Thanks: 102 Thanked 125 Times in 74 Posts	Oh and thanks to Tinplatejeff for posting about these auctions! I never would have found them because of the poor titles. I think the seller lost some money by not giving proper title/description and more/better pictures. I'll post some better pics of it when I get it. - Geo __________________ "Diplomacy is the art of saying nice doggie, until you can find a rock." - Will Rogers

02-06-2016, 07:49 AM	#29
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	Geo99, Yes I did, and yes one of the guys here bought the K. If I were a "serious collector" I would have bid higher on the K. Alvin, the descriptions said "matching". I have very mixed feelings about posting live auctions; one- it does run up interest and ultimately price, but two- you might see one otherwise missed. Like most things, a 2 edged sword! . __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

02-07-2016, 05:59 PM	#32
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	Compare with this one: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=538889237 ==== [Edit] So, hehe.... Auction just finished. But I bet the following nice 1900 might not be able to compete with the previous lousy historical foundation. Market is a weird place. Why? Because it's a separated world. People bidding this won't bid AHF, and people bidding AHF won't bid this http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=539601939 Last edited by alvin; 02-07-2016 at 08:08 PM.

02-05-2016, 04:57 PM	#22
kurusu User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,225 Thanks: 2,679 Thanked 930 Times in 509 Posts	Maybe you folks think too much. Pictures were not that bad. Neither were the prices for that matter.

02-05-2016, 06:42 PM	#23
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	Be honest, I thought about bidding the K a little bit higher. But I am not in domain, if it indeed comes, ,,, , and I shoot a K in range?? That sounds crazy... Or sell it in March or April to earn a little bit money?? Luger guys did not bid today, not because they did not see it, why would they bid in April... There was weird consideration like this, you know. So, let it go unless it's super low. You guys in domain should chase it longer because K is definitely a long-term gun. I agree the K was sold in very modest price. It's not easy to find another one in this price.

02-05-2016, 11:54 PM	#26
Tinplatejeff User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Indiana Posts: 68 Thanks: 77 Thanked 44 Times in 23 Posts	Geo, congrats and you're welcome! Look forward to seeing the pics of the 1937 when you get it.

02-06-2016, 05:58 AM	#27
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	The seller collects Texas sales tax. These guns must come from consignment of one local collector's family. Don't worry too much about matching, I bet it's all matching -- only serious collection has K date in the group. Gambling? Yes, a little bit. But only when you dare to gamble, you could win, let alone this gambling is not totally blind. Please let us know when it arrives.

02-06-2016, 10:11 AM	#31
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 225 Thanked 2,603 Times in 933 Posts	On the topic of horrid photos, here's a current listing for a Navy magazine with photos that reach a new low. What is strange is that other Luger magazines offered by this same seller have crystal clear photos. http://www.ebay.com/itm/321999136326...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Norm