Saudi Arabia - Page 2

Norme · 05-24-2010, 11:56 AM

Hi Ed, Please keep us posted on your adventures, it's been very interesting so far. All the best, Norm

Edward Tinker · 05-24-2010, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norme

Hi Ed, Please keep us posted on your adventures, it's been very interesting so far. All the best, Norm

Norm, I will my friend. I will try to take some worthwhile pictures of the "open" areas and buildings.

I have "mentioned" to several people that I collect lugers (usually I keep it on the QT, but figure that it won't hurt here). Maybe I will get lucky and someone will know someone who has a collection (thinking of my arabic interpreters)

John Sabato · 05-24-2010, 12:29 PM

Ed you may remember that a forum member managed to import FIVE Lugers that he found in a shop somewhere in the middle east, Yemen I think, for well below market price about 10 years ago... I hope you are as lucky and that they are all Simson's or Krieghoff's...

Edward Tinker · 05-24-2010, 12:30 PM

john, I forgot about that, but remember it vividely now that you mention it :>)

Norme · 05-24-2010, 01:24 PM

Hi Ed, Maybe you'll find Lawrence of Arabia's Luger, if Ralph Shattuck hasn't already beaten you to it. Regards, Norm

Sieger · 05-25-2010, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by alvin

Arabic language is a hard one. A good oppertunity to figure out what they wrote on those Persian Mausers

FYI:

Persian Mausers are in Persian, not Arabic.

Sieger

Lugerdoc · 05-28-2010, 09:49 AM

Ed, Thanks for a couple of your recent referals. Have you seen any "gold bar" venting machines, like I've seen shown on TV? I wonder how long one of those would last here at a local bank? Or more importantly, have you found a beer machine on base? As a ole Navy vet, it's had for me to imagine liberty without a bar staffed by good looking B-girls. Should we all send you some good books? Although, I understand possession of a Playboy is a "heangin' offence". Tom

Edward Tinker · 05-28-2010, 11:25 AM

Things here are interesting, on our compound they get away with a bit more, but the mails are subject to search and I think they do; so mail is not the best way to send me inappropriate material.

They say that if you want it, you can get in the kingdom, but the penalty is still there; so I can wait till out of country for many things

Ed

Edward Tinker · 06-02-2010, 08:56 AM

Well, I could ship 110 lbs, to include the shipping boxes (which weighed 10 lbs), so out of 100 lbs, you can see what was important to me

policeluger · 06-02-2010, 09:03 AM

you got all the right books, thats all you need......take care of your self.

mrerick · 06-02-2010, 10:15 AM

What are firearms laws like in the Kingdom?

Marc

Conny · 06-02-2010, 10:54 AM

Don't forget in your travels and adventures to ride a stinky, nasty, spitting camel.

John Sabato · 06-02-2010, 12:10 PM

Marc has a great question... Ed are you allowed to enjoy the shooting sports in the kingdom?

Edward Tinker · 06-02-2010, 12:58 PM

I have heard not really, but I am not with any gun guys right now.

I do get to play with the F2000, the Five-SeveN Tactical, the M240 version they have and their assult rifle in the next month...

Ed

Norme · 06-02-2010, 10:28 PM

Hi Ed , I'm in Las Vegas for a week (on business). It's probably just as hot as where you are, except there's more booze and broads. All the best, Norm

tudorbug · 06-03-2010, 02:24 PM

Ed:

When I was in Saudi Arabia, I had to make a trip to Khamis Mushyat in the south eastern portion. My co-worker there was a gun collector and, in the course of our conversation, he told me that he had been offered a Luger by a gun seller in the suq (market). This came up after he showed me a small, very collectable revolver that he had acquired there. I don't remember the maker or model.

We went to the suq the very next morning and found the seller. When asked, perhaps because he did no recognize me, he would not produce the Luger. He did, however, produce a K98 that was in mint, virtually unfired condtion, with no track on the loading ramp showing a cartridge had been run up into the chamber.

He passed on the K98 which in later years I much regretted.

My Chief of Section in Tabuk told me of his early time in the same area. He was told that there was a storage of 1866 "yellow belly" Winchester rifles under control of the prince of that region and, if I recall correctly, the prince awarded one to someone, not a Saudi national, who had excelled at some effort the about which the prince was concerned. The Winchester was in mint, unused condition.

Not that in the dry, near zero percent humidity, exposed steel surfaces in Saudi Arabia do not rust. In my location in Tabuk we had mint, new, unrusted but sand covered parts for 1956 Chevrolet trucks that had diappeared long before I arrived there in 1973.

It's an interesting place.

David
David

Edward Tinker · 06-12-2010, 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrerick

What are firearms laws like in the Kingdom?

Marc

Learned something interesting this last weekend (even tho today is Saturday, its OUR Monday). One of the guys at our Saturday (your Thursday

) evening mentioned he saw gun shops downtown?

I said "really???"

I looked it up on-line today, last fall 2009 it was officially allowed in Saudi Arabia that people could own gun shops! And of course folks can buy guns. So, now I am very curious and copied 4 or 5 "sports stores" and will be very curious to see what they have! (in January 2010 five permits were issued, unsure about how many now)

The pictures and article talked about hunting rifles and shotguns, but also said handguns could be sold. The reason, and get this, was to STEM the tide of illegal guns! It was felt by the gov't that many illegal guns were flowing into the country and were already in the country and this would prevent it. A great move by any country if you ask me.

Ed

SteveM · 06-12-2010, 09:30 AM

Ed,

More than likely you will see early BRNO sporting rifles. Please keep an eye out for those also.

Steve

tudorbug · 06-12-2010, 11:10 AM

I recall boarding a flight from Riyadh going to Tabuk. The aircraft was a Boeing 727. At the start of the flight, I saw a steward or stewardess standing in the front of the aircraft near the entrance holding a .45 US Government model that she had received from a Saudi gentleman who had just boarded the flight.

I assume that he received his pistol back when he reached his destination.

David

05-24-2010, 12:29 PM	#23
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Ed you may remember that a forum member managed to import FIVE Lugers that he found in a shop somewhere in the middle east, Yemen I think, for well below market price about 10 years ago... I hope you are as lucky and that they are all Simson's or Krieghoff's... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

05-28-2010, 09:49 AM	#27
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Ed, Thanks for a couple of your recent referals. Have you seen any "gold bar" venting machines, like I've seen shown on TV? I wonder how long one of those would last here at a local bank? Or more importantly, have you found a beer machine on base? As a ole Navy vet, it's had for me to imagine liberty without a bar staffed by good looking B-girls. Should we all send you some good books? Although, I understand possession of a Playboy is a "heangin' offence". Tom __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

05-28-2010, 11:25 AM	#28
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,915 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,506 Times in 2,080 Posts	Things here are interesting, on our compound they get away with a bit more, but the mails are subject to search and I think they do; so mail is not the best way to send me inappropriate material. They say that if you want it, you can get in the kingdom, but the penalty is still there; so I can wait till out of country for many things Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

06-02-2010, 08:56 AM	#29
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,915 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,506 Times in 2,080 Posts	Well, I could ship 110 lbs, to include the shipping boxes (which weighed 10 lbs), so out of 100 lbs, you can see what was important to me Attached Thumbnails

06-02-2010, 10:54 AM	#32
Conny User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Culpeper, Va. Posts: 279 Thanks: 0 Thanked 26 Times in 13 Posts	Don't forget in your travels and adventures to ride a stinky, nasty, spitting camel. __________________ Rangers Lead the Way, Duane Leiker

05-24-2010, 11:56 AM	#21
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,415 Thanks: 225 Thanked 2,594 Times in 931 Posts	Hi Ed, Please keep us posted on your adventures, it's been very interesting so far. All the best, Norm

05-24-2010, 12:30 PM	#24
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,915 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,506 Times in 2,080 Posts	john, I forgot about that, but remember it vividely now that you mention it :>)

05-24-2010, 01:24 PM	#25
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,415 Thanks: 225 Thanked 2,594 Times in 931 Posts	Hi Ed, Maybe you'll find Lawrence of Arabia's Luger, if Ralph Shattuck hasn't already beaten you to it. Regards, Norm

06-02-2010, 09:03 AM	#30
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	you got all the right books, thats all you need......take care of your self.

06-02-2010, 10:15 AM	#31
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 1,372 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	What are firearms laws like in the Kingdom? Marc

06-02-2010, 12:10 PM	#33
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Marc has a great question... Ed are you allowed to enjoy the shooting sports in the kingdom? __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

06-02-2010, 12:58 PM	#34
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,915 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,506 Times in 2,080 Posts	I have heard not really, but I am not with any gun guys right now. I do get to play with the F2000, the Five-SeveN Tactical, the M240 version they have and their assult rifle in the next month... Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

06-02-2010, 10:28 PM	#35
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,415 Thanks: 225 Thanked 2,594 Times in 931 Posts	Hi Ed , I'm in Las Vegas for a week (on business). It's probably just as hot as where you are, except there's more booze and broads. All the best, Norm

06-03-2010, 02:24 PM	#36
tudorbug Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Georgia Posts: 387 Thanks: 0 Thanked 40 Times in 29 Posts	Ed: When I was in Saudi Arabia, I had to make a trip to Khamis Mushyat in the south eastern portion. My co-worker there was a gun collector and, in the course of our conversation, he told me that he had been offered a Luger by a gun seller in the suq (market). This came up after he showed me a small, very collectable revolver that he had acquired there. I don't remember the maker or model. We went to the suq the very next morning and found the seller. When asked, perhaps because he did no recognize me, he would not produce the Luger. He did, however, produce a K98 that was in mint, virtually unfired condtion, with no track on the loading ramp showing a cartridge had been run up into the chamber. He passed on the K98 which in later years I much regretted. My Chief of Section in Tabuk told me of his early time in the same area. He was told that there was a storage of 1866 "yellow belly" Winchester rifles under control of the prince of that region and, if I recall correctly, the prince awarded one to someone, not a Saudi national, who had excelled at some effort the about which the prince was concerned. The Winchester was in mint, unused condition. Not that in the dry, near zero percent humidity, exposed steel surfaces in Saudi Arabia do not rust. In my location in Tabuk we had mint, new, unrusted but sand covered parts for 1956 Chevrolet trucks that had diappeared long before I arrived there in 1973. It's an interesting place. David David

06-12-2010, 09:30 AM	#38
SteveM User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,016 Thanks: 94 Thanked 275 Times in 137 Posts	Ed, More than likely you will see early BRNO sporting rifles. Please keep an eye out for those also. Steve

06-12-2010, 11:10 AM	#39
tudorbug Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Georgia Posts: 387 Thanks: 0 Thanked 40 Times in 29 Posts	I recall boarding a flight from Riyadh going to Tabuk. The aircraft was a Boeing 727. At the start of the flight, I saw a steward or stewardess standing in the front of the aircraft near the entrance holding a .45 US Government model that she had received from a Saudi gentleman who had just boarded the flight. I assume that he received his pistol back when he reached his destination. David