Is this a rare Swiss Luger? - Page 2

HKMan · 04-30-2011, 11:34 PM

Thank you Ben! I see the Magazine Holder on top but is there a Loading tool pouch inside?

HKMan · 04-30-2011, 11:36 PM

Is there anyone who makes a Hardshell holster for the 6" guns??

Michael Zeleny · 05-01-2011, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by HKMan

Is there anyone who makes a Hardshell holster for the 6" guns??

Yes, and how. Try this outfit.

raygun · 05-01-2011, 07:55 AM

Didn't Hugo Borchardt spend time in America? perhaps thats where he got the idea !?[/QUOTE]

Of course....He worked for the Winchester Repeating Arms Co...and seems that he developed a Revolver , which purpose was to force Colt to cease production of rifles...[/QUOTE]

I was surprised by your comment as I have never heard of a Borchardt revolver!? But your right, and here is as good an explanation as any on the topic. http://www.airlandseaweapons.com/blo...oading-pistol/

But it seems they were never put into production ! shame I guess!

Ben M. · 05-01-2011, 11:36 AM

HKman, The holster that Interarms sold did not have a tool pouch at all. It did have a provision to place a cleaning rod in a round formed sleeve along the side/edge of the holster. A friend of mine here in Las Vegas has a 4" model. Its nicely made but the leather is thick and still stiff after many years. Not pliable.

HKMan · 05-01-2011, 10:55 PM

Mike you make Holsters?

Ben the Interarms version isn't really what I'd call a true "Luger Holster".

However, the Hardshell Holsters aren't really pliable either. I like the traditional Holster with the Magazine pouch and loading tool pouch under the flap.

Most of these holsters don't have a cleaning rod pouch.

Michael Zeleny · 05-02-2011, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by HKMan

Mike you make Holsters?

No. As Len Deighton put it, "I'm a let-someone-else-do-it man."

HKMan · 05-02-2011, 07:02 PM

Mike,

So then what "outfit" were you referring to? There was no phone, email address, or website in your posting.

I'm looking for a Hardshell Holster but for a 6" Luger-not the 4" pistol.

Michael Zeleny · 05-02-2011, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HKMan

So then what "outfit" were you referring to? There was no phone, email address, or website in your posting.

Click on the links.

sheepherder · 05-02-2011, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HKMan

So then what "outfit" were you referring to? There was no phone, email address, or website in your posting.

This Forum is not configured to show active links in a contrasting color...click on the word 'this' in Michael's post...

(Or his 'and how')

HKMan · 05-02-2011, 08:17 PM

I see it now but there's no traditional magazine pouch!

I'd rather have the magazine pouch than the cleaning rod holder.

Does anyone make anything to order?

Michael Zeleny · 05-02-2011, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HKMan

I see it now but there's no traditional magazine pouch!

I'd rather have the magazine pouch than the cleaning rod holder.

Does anyone make anything to order?

The Navy holster has no "traditional magazine pouch". Many holster makers take custom orders. None worth their salt will work on a spurious pattern.

glock30 · 08-25-2011, 02:43 PM

I know this is an old thread , BUT, do all Swiss Lugers that were made for the Swiss Army adopted in 06 to whenever in 1945 when they replaced it, DID they all look like this, no knurling in the toggles, no frame fins, and the different looking receiver nose? There is one on U-Tube that he insists it be called a Parabellum.

Vlim · 08-25-2011, 02:48 PM

Only the 06/29 did, and some early post-war Mauser pistols which were based on it.

Insisting on calling the pistol a 'Parabellum' has some merit. It's called the 'Parabellum Pistol' officially after all. If one drives a Chevy, one may just as well call it a Chevy

glock30 · 08-25-2011, 06:40 PM

SO how many were made. Are they rare, there is one on U-Tube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RjqB...0EFD5EE8922217

something like this would be how common? ANd oh yes, HE DOES not want you to call his 06/29 a Luger!!! SO don't dare say in his comments, "I like your Luger." It sure is a beauty!

MFC · 08-25-2011, 10:21 PM

Well, his title of the video states Parabellum/Luger disassembly, but don't tell him I said so.

Michael Zeleny · 01-07-2017, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael Zeleny

I just bought this pistol from Holts and will review it in this space upon import.

It took me over six years to get my hands on this 9mm Para W+F P06/29 serial no. P26292. A full comparative multimedia review to follow.

Stucki · 01-07-2017, 08:07 AM

The 10 Pistols 06/29 with SN P26291 to SN P26300 were 9mm test guns of the Waffenfabrik Bern (W+F). They were used for precision tests in Dezember 1943. Four of the 9mm pistols performed as good as the Pistols 06/29 in caliber 7,65mm, six of them were worse (but still not to fare away from the precision of the 7,65mm pistols). The Pistol SN P26292 was one of the worse six...

These tests were quite successful, because one year earlier, tests with other Pistols 06/29 in 9mm showed much worse results (comparable to the precision of a German 9mm Pistol 08, which was tested in 1941 by the W+F).

The test pistols from 1942 had the following SN: 50921, 50922, 50925, 50927, 50929, 50940 and 2. The pistol with SN 2 was an old gun which was already used for tests some years before and performed much better than the other ones. Nothing more is known about it.

Alexander

sheepherder · 01-07-2017, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Zeleny

It took me over six years to get my hands on this 9mm Para W+F P06/29 serial no. P26292. A full comparative multimedia review to follow.

I can't wait to hear why it took so long. After the event at the Fort Lauderdale airport this week, it'll probably be the last to be imported.

Ron Wood · 01-07-2017, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Zeleny

It took me over six years to get my hands on this 9mm Para W+F P06/29 serial no. P26292. A full comparative multimedia review to follow.

Michael,
Congratulations on acquiring one of the very few authentic 9mm Swiss. Well worth the 6 year wait.
Ron

04-30-2011, 11:34 PM	#21
HKMan User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thank you Ben! Thank you Ben! I see the Magazine Holder on top but is there a Loading tool pouch inside?

04-30-2011, 11:36 PM	#22
HKMan User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Is there anyone who makes a Hardshell 6"?? Is there anyone who makes a Hardshell holster for the 6" guns??

05-01-2011, 07:55 AM	#24
raygun User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: brisbane Posts: 150 Thanks: 3 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Didn't Hugo Borchardt spend time in America? perhaps thats where he got the idea !?[/QUOTE] Of course....He worked for the Winchester Repeating Arms Co...and seems that he developed a Revolver , which purpose was to force Colt to cease production of rifles...[/QUOTE] I was surprised by your comment as I have never heard of a Borchardt revolver!? But your right, and here is as good an explanation as any on the topic. http://www.airlandseaweapons.com/blo...oading-pistol/ But it seems they were never put into production ! shame I guess! __________________ arma tuentur pacem

05-01-2011, 10:55 PM	#26
HKMan User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Mike you make Holsters? Mike you make Holsters? Ben the Interarms version isn't really what I'd call a true "Luger Holster". However, the Hardshell Holsters aren't really pliable either. I like the traditional Holster with the Magazine pouch and loading tool pouch under the flap. Most of these holsters don't have a cleaning rod pouch.

05-02-2011, 07:02 PM	#28
HKMan User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Mike so then what outfit were you referring to? Mike, So then what "outfit" were you referring to? There was no phone, email address, or website in your posting. I'm looking for a Hardshell Holster but for a 6" Luger-not the 4" pistol.

05-01-2011, 11:36 AM	#25
Ben M. User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Retired to Naples, FL. Posts: 488 Thanks: 90 Thanked 123 Times in 83 Posts	HKman, The holster that Interarms sold did not have a tool pouch at all. It did have a provision to place a cleaning rod in a round formed sleeve along the side/edge of the holster. A friend of mine here in Las Vegas has a 4" model. Its nicely made but the leather is thick and still stiff after many years. Not pliable.

05-02-2011, 08:17 PM	#31
HKMan User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I see it now but there's no magazine pouch! I see it now but there's no traditional magazine pouch! I'd rather have the magazine pouch than the cleaning rod holder. Does anyone make anything to order?

08-25-2011, 02:43 PM	#33
glock30 User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Obama LAND Posts: 206 Thanks: 18 Thanked 17 Times in 14 Posts	I know this is an old thread , BUT, do all Swiss Lugers that were made for the Swiss Army adopted in 06 to whenever in 1945 when they replaced it, DID they all look like this, no knurling in the toggles, no frame fins, and the different looking receiver nose? There is one on U-Tube that he insists it be called a Parabellum.

08-25-2011, 02:48 PM	#34
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,988 Times in 1,205 Posts	Only the 06/29 did, and some early post-war Mauser pistols which were based on it. Insisting on calling the pistol a 'Parabellum' has some merit. It's called the 'Parabellum Pistol' officially after all. If one drives a Chevy, one may just as well call it a Chevy

08-25-2011, 06:40 PM	#35
glock30 User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Obama LAND Posts: 206 Thanks: 18 Thanked 17 Times in 14 Posts	SO how many were made. Are they rare, there is one on U-Tube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RjqB...0EFD5EE8922217 something like this would be how common? ANd oh yes, HE DOES not want you to call his 06/29 a Luger!!! SO don't dare say in his comments, "I like your Luger." It sure is a beauty!

08-25-2011, 10:21 PM	#36
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	Well, his title of the video states Parabellum/Luger disassembly, but don't tell him I said so. __________________ Mike C.

01-07-2017, 08:07 AM	#38
Stucki User Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 84 Thanks: 1 Thanked 130 Times in 34 Posts	The 10 Pistols 06/29 with SN P26291 to SN P26300 were 9mm test guns of the Waffenfabrik Bern (W+F). They were used for precision tests in Dezember 1943. Four of the 9mm pistols performed as good as the Pistols 06/29 in caliber 7,65mm, six of them were worse (but still not to fare away from the precision of the 7,65mm pistols). The Pistol SN P26292 was one of the worse six... These tests were quite successful, because one year earlier, tests with other Pistols 06/29 in 9mm showed much worse results (comparable to the precision of a German 9mm Pistol 08, which was tested in 1941 by the W+F). The test pistols from 1942 had the following SN: 50921, 50922, 50925, 50927, 50929, 50940 and 2. The pistol with SN 2 was an old gun which was already used for tests some years before and performed much better than the other ones. Nothing more is known about it. Alexander