1918 Erfurt, Odd Grip Panel Marking - Page 2

lawrence · 02-05-2006, 02:21 PM

Nice CZ27 Schupo. It will be a couple of weeks on photos. I did purchase the pistol. Better shape than I stated earlier. Probably 97-98%. Holster was a 1944 EWX hardshell P-38 which my son has take possesion of and want let me sell. Anyway I came out OK on the deal.
Thank you guys for all your knowledge and willingness to help.
Lawrence

Schupo · 02-05-2006, 03:34 PM

Lawrence,

I am happy that you were able to pick up the DR luger and that it turned out better than you remembered. I look forward to seeing your photos.

Here is a closeup of the DR markings on my CZ27.

lawrence · 02-05-2006, 03:46 PM

Schupo, were any of these weapons unit marked (grip straps)? Do you know if any had the additional safeties added? I see on the forum that many actual police pistols had one or more of these alterations. Lawrence

Schupo · 02-05-2006, 04:46 PM

Lawrence,

The safety alterations on the P.08 were generally limited to the Prussian Schutzpolizei and the Ordnungspolizei and did not apply to the Bahnpolizei. I would not expect to normally see safety alterations on Deutsche Reichsbahn lugers. I don't know about gripstrap markings. DR rifles and bayonets were sometimes unit marked, so it is possible.

Lugerdoc · 02-06-2006, 11:23 AM

The only identifing marking on the Reichbahn luger that I once owned was the "winged wheel" branded left grip. TH

lawrence · 03-02-2006, 08:41 PM

Schupo, here is a scanned version until I can get some pics.

Schupo · 03-03-2006, 01:39 PM

Lawrence,

I can just make out that it is there. I will wait for a little lighter photo. Thanks for posting it.

Edward Tinker · 03-03-2006, 02:43 PM

cropped and lightened

John Sabato · 03-03-2006, 02:51 PM

Back when this forum was in its infacy, several years ago, we had a similar inquiry about this DR branding of the grip. There were excellent photos attached to that posting, but unfortunately, those photos are long gone with the transition to the new format we use today. Perhaps one of the old time members copied those photos to their hard disk and could repost them...??? Anyone still have those photos?

lawrence · 03-03-2006, 04:19 PM

Thanks for the help Ed. Looks much better. Will try some pics hopefully this weekend. Lawrence

Schupo · 03-03-2006, 04:56 PM

Yep, that is it. The winged wheel of the Deutsche Reichsbahn.

02-05-2006, 03:34 PM	#22
Schupo User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kansas City Metro Posts: 206 Thanks: 1 Thanked 102 Times in 47 Posts	Lawrence, I am happy that you were able to pick up the DR luger and that it turned out better than you remembered. I look forward to seeing your photos. Here is a closeup of the DR markings on my CZ27. Attached Images __________________ "You can't please everyone, so you have got to please yourself." Ricky Nelson

02-05-2006, 04:46 PM	#24
Schupo User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kansas City Metro Posts: 206 Thanks: 1 Thanked 102 Times in 47 Posts	Lawrence, The safety alterations on the P.08 were generally limited to the Prussian Schutzpolizei and the Ordnungspolizei and did not apply to the Bahnpolizei. I would not expect to normally see safety alterations on Deutsche Reichsbahn lugers. I don't know about gripstrap markings. DR rifles and bayonets were sometimes unit marked, so it is possible. __________________ "You can't please everyone, so you have got to please yourself." Ricky Nelson

02-06-2006, 11:23 AM	#25
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	The only identifing marking on the Reichbahn luger that I once owned was the "winged wheel" branded left grip. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

03-02-2006, 08:41 PM	#26
lawrence User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ky Posts: 39 Thanks: 17 Thanked 7 Times in 2 Posts	DR winged wheel mark Schupo, here is a scanned version until I can get some pics. Attached Thumbnails

03-03-2006, 01:39 PM	#27
Schupo User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kansas City Metro Posts: 206 Thanks: 1 Thanked 102 Times in 47 Posts	Lawrence, I can just make out that it is there. I will wait for a little lighter photo. Thanks for posting it. __________________ "You can't please everyone, so you have got to please yourself." Ricky Nelson

02-05-2006, 02:21 PM	#21
lawrence User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ky Posts: 39 Thanks: 17 Thanked 7 Times in 2 Posts	Nice CZ27 Schupo. It will be a couple of weeks on photos. I did purchase the pistol. Better shape than I stated earlier. Probably 97-98%. Holster was a 1944 EWX hardshell P-38 which my son has take possesion of and want let me sell. Anyway I came out OK on the deal. Thank you guys for all your knowledge and willingness to help. Lawrence

02-05-2006, 03:46 PM	#23
lawrence User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ky Posts: 39 Thanks: 17 Thanked 7 Times in 2 Posts	Schupo, were any of these weapons unit marked (grip straps)? Do you know if any had the additional safeties added? I see on the forum that many actual police pistols had one or more of these alterations. Lawrence

03-03-2006, 02:43 PM	#28
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,916 Thanks: 1,992 Thanked 4,506 Times in 2,080 Posts	cropped and lightened Attached Images

03-03-2006, 02:51 PM	#29
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,152 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Back when this forum was in its infacy, several years ago, we had a similar inquiry about this DR branding of the grip. There were excellent photos attached to that posting, but unfortunately, those photos are long gone with the transition to the new format we use today. Perhaps one of the old time members copied those photos to their hard disk and could repost them...??? Anyone still have those photos? __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

03-03-2006, 04:19 PM	#30
lawrence User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ky Posts: 39 Thanks: 17 Thanked 7 Times in 2 Posts	Thanks for the help Ed. Looks much better. Will try some pics hopefully this weekend. Lawrence

03-03-2006, 04:56 PM	#31
Schupo User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kansas City Metro Posts: 206 Thanks: 1 Thanked 102 Times in 47 Posts	Yep, that is it. The winged wheel of the Deutsche Reichsbahn. __________________ "You can't please everyone, so you have got to please yourself." Ricky Nelson