Ugly Stovepipe

[kurusu]

Originally Posted by Ron Wood

Mario,
That is an interesting marking on the frame panel. Can you tell us what it is?
Thanks,
Ron

"That" is what makes this pistol a "shooter".

Those are the initials of the previous owner and his logo (he is a gunsmith).

[kurusu]

Originally Posted by Lugerdoc

M, Your method of clearing the chamber is what I always use for PO8 take down, rather than risking damaging the barrel crown by pushing it against a hard surface. when an empty mag is not available. I believe that I saw it in an old PO8 manual. The MSTR works by connecting the safety to a modified hold open, TH

That's also how I do it.

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by kurusu

"That" is what makes this pistol a "shooter".

Those are the initials of the previous owner and his logo (he is a gunsmith).

It looks very well done.

In my humble world, a well done mark such as that would not make it automatically a shooter; just as regimental unit stampings (quite often crudely done) do not automatically make a Luger 'more valuable'.

[kurusu]

Originally Posted by sheepherder

It looks very well done.

In my humble world, a well done mark such as that would not make it automatically a shooter; just as regimental unit stampings (quite often crudely done) do not automatically make a Luger 'more valuable'.

He also replaced the original trigger and firing pin. So they are not numbered to the gun. But they were fitted for target shooting. He also competes with Lugers, less frequently now because he's getting older, this was one of his competition pistols.

And I'm proud to have it.

It still has the original finish. It's a 1938 s/42. The VoPo grips are there just not to damage the originals.

PS. In another forum one of us asked "what almost matching" meant. Well, this is it.

[DonVoigt]

Originally Posted by sheepherder

Sounds like the Martz Safe Toggle Release (US Patent #3,956,967).

Rich,
I do believe that is IT! Thanks.

[DonVoigt]

Originally Posted by kurusu

Can be done with two hands. Learned how to do it to clear this type of jam while competing.

1 open the action the usual away.

2 use your right hand to keep the action open like on photo.

3 your left hand is now free. You can push the cartridge back into the magazine with your index and release the magazine with your thumb. You can now easily remove the spent cartridge from the chamber.

Once in a while I had this type of jam. Not because of stovepiping but because the extractor released the case early leaving it halfway out the chamber(it was ammo related).

First time it ocurred was in a match. I had to declare an alibi, that cost me 2 points penalty, in a 5 minute 5 shot string because I couldn't clear it alone.

When I got home I decided it wouldn't happen again. So I developed this method.

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Yes, that works well- as long as the "jam" can be moved with a finger. I carry a wooden dowel with a flattened end as sometimes it takes a little more persuasion than my finger.

[ithacaartist]

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

Yes, that works well- as long as the "jam" can be moved with a finger. I carry a wooden dowel with a flattened end as sometimes it takes a little more persuasion than my finger.

Great idea, Don! When the jam happens that way, the mag usually doesn't drop out because the partially displaced round sort of locks it in. Sometimes I've used the finger method if the round isn't that far out. Your dowel/spade is the perfect way to use only two hands, and still avoid a blood blister if something slips and the action decides to "bite." The later model Erma toggle pistols are quite talented at the latter, as well.

[kurusu]

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

Yes, that works well- as long as the "jam" can be moved with a finger. I carry a wooden dowel with a flattened end as sometimes it takes a little more persuasion than my finger.

I got very persuasive fingers.

[DonVoigt]

Originally Posted by kurusu

I got very persuasive fingers.

Helps if they are "skinny" enough to get down in the receiver.