Luger Variety - Page 2

HerrKaiser · 02-18-2021, 05:21 PM

I will give it a go on a possible combo...

1. DWM Luger Carbine model 1900 (caliber 7.65 mm, 12" barrel)
2. Erfurt LP.08 (caliber 9mm, 8" barrel)
3. 1906/29 W+F Bern (caliber .30, 4.75" barrel)
4. Krieghoff P.08 (caliber 9mm, 4" barrel)
5. Vickers LTD Luger (9mm, 4")
6. Simson P.08 (9mm, 4")
7. Mauser Parabellum 06/73 (9mm or 7.65, 6" barrel)

The hangups I ran into are whether or not to count the carbine, much less to include super rare items like the .45 US 1907 Test Luger or or the "baby" Lugers, and how to account for a 6" barrel as only post-war Mauser Parabellums and DWM Navy guns (commercial or military) came that way from the factory as I recall.

Ron Wood · 02-18-2021, 05:33 PM

Quintin,
Now you know why I didn't try to come up with a list!

Ron
P.S. Not sure Reese thought it all the way through either

Dwight Gruber · 02-18-2021, 06:04 PM

DWM = 3
Navy (6-inch)
LP08 (8-inch)
Alphabet Commercial (3 ¾-inch)

Erfurt = 1
P08 (4-inch, 9mm)

Simson = 1

Mauser = 1

Berne = 1
(4 ¾ inch, 7,65mm)

Total = 7

If you include Vickers it stretches to 8.

--Dwight

HerrKaiser · 02-18-2021, 06:15 PM

Dwight,

If you include Krieghoff, it goes up to 9. But Erfurt could just be the LP.08 and drop it back down to 8 again.

m1903a3 · 02-18-2021, 08:46 PM

Imperial Navies - back in 2014

I need to update it.

MFC · 02-18-2021, 08:53 PM

Ya'll forgot Spandau.

Mac Cat · 02-18-2021, 09:07 PM

1) 1900 AE
2) Navy (6" or 8")
3) Swiss Alphabet
4) Simson
5) 41, 42 or byf
6) LP.08
7) 1970s Mauser

My personal goal was 8 different banners or chamber stamps.
Thanks to some of you here, I have one of each of these now.

The varieties and accessories for the Luger is what continues to fascinate me.

spripple33 · 02-19-2021, 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m1903a3

Imperial Navies - back in 2014

I need to update it.

Wow... (drooling) Impressive display!!! (slobbering, barely coherent)

-Jason

tharpo · 02-19-2021, 07:36 PM

Filled in some missing Banner variations in my first post on gunbugs recommendation.

cirelaw · 02-19-2021, 08:17 PM

Years AGO

gunbugs · 02-19-2021, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tharpo

Filled in some missing Banner variations in my first post on gunbugs recommendation.

My hero! I love a Banner for some strange reason.

gunbugs · 02-19-2021, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m1903a3

Imperial Navies - back in 2014

I need to update it.

Absolutely fantastic! My heart skips a beat. 6" navies are the prettiest, in my opinion.

spripple33 · 02-20-2021, 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gunbugs

Absolutely fantastic! My heart skips a beat. 6" navies are the prettiest, in my opinion.

Gunbugs, I agree 100%.

Lugerdoc · 02-20-2021, 02:27 PM

Ron, At least 4 DWMs would be required for the barrel lengths of 12"(300mm), 8"(200mm),6"(150), 4&3/4"(120mm); so the DWM carbine, Artillery, Navy and M1900 would cover one manufacture, 4 barrel lengths, both calibers and 4 differ rear sight variations. So one pistol each from Erfurt, Simson, Mauser and Kreighoff will cover the remaining manufactures and the 4" (100mm) barrel length for a total of 7 pistols. TH

Lugerdoc · 02-20-2021, 02:34 PM

Ron, At least 4 DWMs would be required for the barrel lengths of 12"(300mm), 8"(200mm),6"(150), 4&3/4"(120mm); so the DWM carbine, Artillery, Navy and M1900 would cover one manufacture, 4 barrel lengths, both calibers and 4 differ rear sight variations. So one pistol each from Erfurt, Simson, Mauser and Kreighoff will cover the remaining manufactures and the 4" (100mm) barrel length for a total of 7 pistols. I see the Cirelaw shows a photo of all of them above. TH

gunbugs · 02-20-2021, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lugerdoc

Ron, At least 4 DWMs would be required for the barrel lengths of 12"(300mm), 8"(200mm),6"(150), 4&3/4"(120mm); so the DWM carbine, Artillery, Navy and M1900 would cover one manufacture, 4 barrel lengths, both calibers and 4 differ rear sight variations. So one pistol each from Erfurt, Simson, Mauser and Kreighoff will cover the remaining manufactures and the 4" (100mm) barrel length for a total of 7 pistols. I see the Cirelaw shows a photo of all of them above. TH

You'll still need a Swiss Bern made gun, for a mfg.

HerrKaiser · 02-20-2021, 06:24 PM

And Erfurt can still satisfy the LP.08 requirement.

cirelaw · 02-21-2021, 12:03 PM

Differnt barrel lenghts

Heinz · 02-22-2021, 11:14 AM

I believe there are two different barrel lengths in the Alphabet commercial lugers, a 3 7/8 inch and a 3 3/4 inch. At least that is what I have observed.

Kiwi · 02-22-2021, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lugerdoc

Ron, At least 4 DWMs would be required for the barrel lengths of 12"(300mm), 8"(200mm),6"(150), 4&3/4"(120mm); so the DWM carbine, Artillery, Navy and M1900 would cover one manufacture, 4 barrel lengths, both calibers and 4 differ rear sight variations. So one pistol each from Erfurt, Simson, Mauser and Kreighoff will cover the remaining manufactures and the 4" (100mm) barrel length for a total of 7 pistols. I see the Cirelaw shows a photo of all of them above. TH

I am confused - Maybe it is my math

4 DWMs for lengths
- 12in
- 8in
- 6in
- 4 3/4
5 additional manufacturers
Erfurt
Simson
Kreighoff
Mauser
Bern

(Makes 9 with my math
Unless Erfurt/Simson/Kreighoff count as 1 set of machines)

02-18-2021, 05:21 PM	#21
HerrKaiser User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: South Carolina Posts: 848 Thanks: 784 Thanked 861 Times in 411 Posts	I will give it a go on a possible combo... 1. DWM Luger Carbine model 1900 (caliber 7.65 mm, 12" barrel) 2. Erfurt LP.08 (caliber 9mm, 8" barrel) 3. 1906/29 W+F Bern (caliber .30, 4.75" barrel) 4. Krieghoff P.08 (caliber 9mm, 4" barrel) 5. Vickers LTD Luger (9mm, 4") 6. Simson P.08 (9mm, 4") 7. Mauser Parabellum 06/73 (9mm or 7.65, 6" barrel) The hangups I ran into are whether or not to count the carbine, much less to include super rare items like the .45 US 1907 Test Luger or or the "baby" Lugers, and how to account for a 6" barrel as only post-war Mauser Parabellums and DWM Navy guns (commercial or military) came that way from the factory as I recall. __________________ -QM Looking for Mauser S/42 toggle train #22

02-18-2021, 05:33 PM	#22
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,178 Times in 1,703 Posts	Quintin, Now you know why I didn't try to come up with a list! Ron P.S. Not sure Reese thought it all the way through either __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

02-18-2021, 06:15 PM	#24
HerrKaiser User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: South Carolina Posts: 848 Thanks: 784 Thanked 861 Times in 411 Posts	Dwight, If you include Krieghoff, it goes up to 9. But Erfurt could just be the LP.08 and drop it back down to 8 again. __________________ -QM Looking for Mauser S/42 toggle train #22

02-18-2021, 08:46 PM	#25
m1903a3 User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Virginia Posts: 198 Thanks: 26 Thanked 315 Times in 112 Posts	Imperial Navies - back in 2014 I need to update it. Attached Thumbnails __________________ - Mike Life member: NRA, OVMS, VGCA Member: NAPCA, N-SSA(Veteran) Si vis pacem, para bellum

02-18-2021, 08:53 PM	#26
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	Ya'll forgot Spandau. __________________ Mike C.

02-18-2021, 06:04 PM	#23
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,902 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,317 Times in 431 Posts	DWM = 3 Navy (6-inch) LP08 (8-inch) Alphabet Commercial (3 ¾-inch) Erfurt = 1 P08 (4-inch, 9mm) Simson = 1 Mauser = 1 Berne = 1 (4 ¾ inch, 7,65mm) Total = 7 If you include Vickers it stretches to 8. --Dwight

02-18-2021, 09:07 PM	#27
Mac Cat Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 727 Thanks: 2,091 Thanked 606 Times in 327 Posts	1) 1900 AE 2) Navy (6" or 8") 3) Swiss Alphabet 4) Simson 5) 41, 42 or byf 6) LP.08 7) 1970s Mauser My personal goal was 8 different banners or chamber stamps. Thanks to some of you here, I have one of each of these now. The varieties and accessories for the Luger is what continues to fascinate me.

02-19-2021, 07:36 PM	#29
tharpo Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: West Coast, USA Posts: 543 Thanks: 116 Thanked 382 Times in 157 Posts	Filled in some missing Banner variations in my first post on gunbugs recommendation.

02-19-2021, 08:17 PM	#30
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Years AGO Attached Images

02-20-2021, 02:27 PM	#34
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Ron, At least 4 DWMs would be required for the barrel lengths of 12"(300mm), 8"(200mm),6"(150), 4&3/4"(120mm); so the DWM carbine, Artillery, Navy and M1900 would cover one manufacture, 4 barrel lengths, both calibers and 4 differ rear sight variations. So one pistol each from Erfurt, Simson, Mauser and Kreighoff will cover the remaining manufactures and the 4" (100mm) barrel length for a total of 7 pistols. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

02-20-2021, 02:34 PM	#35
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Ron, At least 4 DWMs would be required for the barrel lengths of 12"(300mm), 8"(200mm),6"(150), 4&3/4"(120mm); so the DWM carbine, Artillery, Navy and M1900 would cover one manufacture, 4 barrel lengths, both calibers and 4 differ rear sight variations. So one pistol each from Erfurt, Simson, Mauser and Kreighoff will cover the remaining manufactures and the 4" (100mm) barrel length for a total of 7 pistols. I see the Cirelaw shows a photo of all of them above. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

02-20-2021, 06:24 PM	#37
HerrKaiser User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: South Carolina Posts: 848 Thanks: 784 Thanked 861 Times in 411 Posts	And Erfurt can still satisfy the LP.08 requirement. __________________ -QM Looking for Mauser S/42 toggle train #22

02-21-2021, 12:03 PM	#38
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Differnt barrel lenghts Attached Images

02-22-2021, 11:14 AM	#39
Heinz User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Greenville SC Posts: 1,004 Thanks: 377 Thanked 410 Times in 180 Posts	I believe there are two different barrel lengths in the Alphabet commercial lugers, a 3 7/8 inch and a 3 3/4 inch. At least that is what I have observed.