What To Do With A Wet Luger? - Page 2

kurusu · 09-01-2017, 06:14 PM

Eric 10 feet is not 500. I live on the top of a hill, It's the highest ground for a few miles around.

cirelaw · 09-01-2017, 06:55 PM

Ask Noah, He had to build an Ark! Hah!

ithacaartist · 09-01-2017, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by cirelaw

Should be no prob here in Florida. Our A/C is always on and I'm surrounded by lugers~ I would individually put them in a ziplock bag as tight as possible~

Eric, I forgot to mention that Foodsaver replacement bags come on a roll that is basically one big, long bag. Cut to length, the raw stock can make any depth bag you want, which will also be about a foot wide, to fit any pistol or holster. Cut one long enough and you could even seal up your carbine's parts. Even a 98K! (That leather carbine carrier Jerry made you might be the exception.)

A guaranteed air and water tight seal. If one should develop a leak, it's easily detectable because the plastic becomes un-scrunched from whatever it was sealing inside. And, of course, the setup is perfect for storing or freezing food on its days off from Luger protection!

cirelaw · 09-01-2017, 11:21 PM

That would be the ultimate!!! TKS

unitedcs · 09-02-2017, 08:49 AM

Kriegsmarine P08s' on the bottom of the Atlantic are beyond resurrection, just saying.

mcg · 09-02-2017, 10:09 AM

On a positive note, the greatest majority of flooding is not salt water. The salt water is almost instantly destructive.
A collertor friend of mine was evacuated from Galveston during Ike several years ago. Lost about 40 years of collection.

Mark

cirelaw · 09-02-2017, 10:14 AM

Well thats sobering! TKS

cirelaw · 09-02-2017, 01:42 PM

Debbys daughter has a food saver~Just need to pick up the rolls!

ithacaartist · 09-02-2017, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cirelaw

Debbys daughter has a food saver~Just need to pick up the rolls!

eBay or Amazon

MikeP · 09-02-2017, 09:53 PM

I had many a wet soaking weapon in VN.
Just dried them and applied oil.
I had a near new tan .45 holster that got darkened after being submerged a few time.
You can bet just about any military weapon in history got drenched more than once.
Dry and oil. Not much else to do as it will happen again if you are in the field.
I would certainty inspect any flooded pieces and clean and oil them as soon as possible.
Friend got some pieces messed up in Katrina, cosmetically at least.

cirelaw · 09-02-2017, 10:25 PM

Don't forgey the leather ie Test Luger holster, 2 artillery, one navy, one Kriegoff, one police, 4 imperials and 21 lugers. Debbie is a amazon next day addict! Jerry thank you for your suggestion~ Thank God the carbine comes in 2 pieces!! Eric

DavidJayUden · 09-02-2017, 11:22 PM

I would be inclined to first submerge dampened guns in WD40 as it is specifically intended for water displacement.
If you ever read Elmer Keith's "Hell, I Was There" he talks about all the guns that were destroyed in a house fire, double rifles, etc. The sad part was that they weren't actually destroyed in the fire, but were caused to corrode due to the fire-retardant used to put the fire out.
dju

gunbugs · 09-03-2017, 02:41 AM

Having cleaned and restored many guns over the years that have been fire and/or water damaged I can say this: If it were me, and I had to protect my guns from water, I would use the foodsaver method. First I would hose them down with my favorite lube, stick them in the bag, and seal it up tight. Then I would stick that bag in another, and seal it up tight. I don't think one bag is sufficient, as it would be very easy for the bag to become compromised and leak. Once water gets in, it won't evaporate, it just stays in the bag. We've all seen guns that have been left in a wet holster or rug, and it is very bad. Zip lock bags will leak. Tupperware will leak. Tape is insufficient to seal against moisture. Much of the damage we see from smoke in fire damaged guns is not from any fire retardant, but is from the corrosive smoke from all the burning plastic in your home, such as the carpet, mixed with the water they spray on the fire, which turns into some kind of acidic steam, that will remove the blue pretty quickly. If your guns actually get exposed to open flame, you are probably out of luck. Some heat and smoke is survivable, but it's hard to protect against. Remember, your safe is fire resistant, not fire PROOF. But a good fire resistant safe may protect your guns long enough for the fire dept. to get there.

cirelaw · 09-03-2017, 11:53 AM

It seem easier to move to Jerrys!

09-01-2017, 06:14 PM	#21
kurusu User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,225 Thanks: 2,679 Thanked 929 Times in 509 Posts	Eric 10 feet is not 500. I live on the top of a hill, It's the highest ground for a few miles around.

09-01-2017, 06:55 PM	#22
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Ask Noah, He had to build an Ark! Hah!

09-01-2017, 11:21 PM	#24
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	That would be the ultimate!!! TKS

09-02-2017, 08:49 AM	#25
unitedcs User Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Land O Lakes, Florida Posts: 90 Thanks: 8 Thanked 30 Times in 15 Posts	Kriegsmarine P08s' on the bottom of the Atlantic are beyond resurrection, just saying.

09-02-2017, 10:09 AM	#26
mcg Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Houston, TX. Posts: 90 Thanks: 252 Thanked 28 Times in 20 Posts	On a positive note, the greatest majority of flooding is not salt water. The salt water is almost instantly destructive. A collertor friend of mine was evacuated from Galveston during Ike several years ago. Lost about 40 years of collection. Mark

09-02-2017, 10:14 AM	#27
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Well thats sobering! TKS

09-02-2017, 01:42 PM	#28
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Debbys daughter has a food saver~Just need to pick up the rolls!

09-02-2017, 09:53 PM	#30
MikeP User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ILL Posts: 686 Thanks: 36 Thanked 452 Times in 198 Posts	I had many a wet soaking weapon in VN. Just dried them and applied oil. I had a near new tan .45 holster that got darkened after being submerged a few time. You can bet just about any military weapon in history got drenched more than once. Dry and oil. Not much else to do as it will happen again if you are in the field. I would certainty inspect any flooded pieces and clean and oil them as soon as possible. Friend got some pieces messed up in Katrina, cosmetically at least.

09-02-2017, 10:25 PM	#31
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Don't forgey the leather ie Test Luger holster, 2 artillery, one navy, one Kriegoff, one police, 4 imperials and 21 lugers. Debbie is a amazon next day addict! Jerry thank you for your suggestion~ Thank God the carbine comes in 2 pieces!! Eric

09-02-2017, 11:22 PM	#32
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	I would be inclined to first submerge dampened guns in WD40 as it is specifically intended for water displacement. If you ever read Elmer Keith's "Hell, I Was There" he talks about all the guns that were destroyed in a house fire, double rifles, etc. The sad part was that they weren't actually destroyed in the fire, but were caused to corrode due to the fire-retardant used to put the fire out. dju

09-03-2017, 02:41 AM	#33
gunbugs Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska. Home of the best moose. Posts: 637 Thanks: 338 Thanked 1,143 Times in 380 Posts	Having cleaned and restored many guns over the years that have been fire and/or water damaged I can say this: If it were me, and I had to protect my guns from water, I would use the foodsaver method. First I would hose them down with my favorite lube, stick them in the bag, and seal it up tight. Then I would stick that bag in another, and seal it up tight. I don't think one bag is sufficient, as it would be very easy for the bag to become compromised and leak. Once water gets in, it won't evaporate, it just stays in the bag. We've all seen guns that have been left in a wet holster or rug, and it is very bad. Zip lock bags will leak. Tupperware will leak. Tape is insufficient to seal against moisture. Much of the damage we see from smoke in fire damaged guns is not from any fire retardant, but is from the corrosive smoke from all the burning plastic in your home, such as the carpet, mixed with the water they spray on the fire, which turns into some kind of acidic steam, that will remove the blue pretty quickly. If your guns actually get exposed to open flame, you are probably out of luck. Some heat and smoke is survivable, but it's hard to protect against. Remember, your safe is fire resistant, not fire PROOF. But a good fire resistant safe may protect your guns long enough for the fire dept. to get there.

09-03-2017, 11:53 AM	#34
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	It seem easier to move to Jerrys!