New Vet Bringbacks

josef · 12-18-2005, 12:04 AM

I had the opportunity to aquire this P08 from a Canadian vet this past week. His wife wanted all guns out of the house. I actually met him while he was signing a couple of his books he had written on Canadian military history during WW2. We got to talking and he offered to sell me his Luger. It is a 1940 dated 42 code P08 sn 6768K all matching except magazine. He picked it up while taking refuge in a bunker in the Rhineland in 1945 off a deceased German.
He had kept the bore clean, but it needed a good going over pretty much everywhere else. I could not resist, his story was fascinating. The Canadian Firearms Center confirmed this author had registered this gun in 1946 upon his return to Canada.
He also gave me a Langenhan pistol he took from a Luftwaffe officer. A great man and I was very pleased to aquire these pieces of history. Hope the pics are okay, thanks for looking.
Joe

Edward Tinker · 12-18-2005, 12:21 AM

Very nice Joe, looks like a nice one!

Hey, I am slowly writing / gathering info for a book on bring backs. literally take the information I get from folks, like you, add pictures, and the text. I have about 40 entries so far

If interested, shoot me an e-mail, the Langenhan I would be interested in as well

weimar_simson@comcast.net

Ed

Dwight Gruber · 12-18-2005, 02:42 AM

Joe,

A very great piece of history, congratulations on beingable to preserve it.

I recommend that you check the Langenhan for a crown-over-gothic-letter on the left frame, indication of military acceptance in WWI.

--Dwight

minigun · 12-18-2005, 03:27 AM

Darn nice!

Heinz · 12-18-2005, 06:56 AM

Josef, very nice. There would also be interest in pictures of your Langenhan in addition to the information Dwight noted the serial number would be of interest.

Thanks in advance

josef · 12-18-2005, 07:22 AM

Thanks Gentlemen, Edward I will get an accurate account of the details and email you shortly. WIth regards to the Langenhan, I will get pics up right away as well. I know it has the crown over N (I believe) and DRP (Deutches Reich patent??) on it, and the serial is low, 9xx I believe? Let me check for sure. Thanks again Gentlemen,
Joe

josef · 12-18-2005, 11:07 AM

Just a little more information about the Langenhan I have before I gett eh pics up. It is an FL model apparently, has the "FL" on the grips. Pics up shortly hopefully,
Joe

josef · 12-18-2005, 11:18 PM

Here is the Langenhan. can anyone tell the year of manufacture or if these marks are in fact military or commercial? Thanks very much,
Joe

Edward Tinker · 12-18-2005, 11:55 PM

Commerical (lazy crown N)

Dwight Gruber · 12-19-2005, 02:42 AM

Joe,

According to Ian V. Hogg the Fritz Langenhan Selbstladenpistole (self-loading pistol) sometimes called the Army Model, was developed in 1914 and patented in 1915. It was accepted for military applications by the Prussian army, and military pistols have a c/letter acceptance mark on the left frame. Yours has standard commercial proofs, but no acceptance mark--I was hoping for another pistol to add to the database.

These guns are chambered for 7.65 Auto. If you are planning to shoot it, you should be sure that the takedown screw at the back of the slide is firmly tightened--if it becomes loose, the hinged finger-piece can flip up on its screw axle and allow the breechblock to recoil into your face.

--Dwight

josef · 12-19-2005, 09:34 AM

Thanks Dwight very much. I forgot to add the vet told me he dismantled it during the war shortly after receiving it. He said he lost a part, can't remember which one, but improvosed with some other piece. It looks to me like a nail was used to hold her together. I think I will deactivate this and keep it rather than having someone fire her. Thanks once agai Gentlemen,
Joe

minigun · 12-19-2005, 11:21 PM

That smaller gun is very interesting in itself!

12-18-2005, 12:04 AM	#1
josef User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: CANADA Posts: 194 Thanks: 4 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	New Vet Bringbacks I had the opportunity to aquire this P08 from a Canadian vet this past week. His wife wanted all guns out of the house. I actually met him while he was signing a couple of his books he had written on Canadian military history during WW2. We got to talking and he offered to sell me his Luger. It is a 1940 dated 42 code P08 sn 6768K all matching except magazine. He picked it up while taking refuge in a bunker in the Rhineland in 1945 off a deceased German. He had kept the bore clean, but it needed a good going over pretty much everywhere else. I could not resist, his story was fascinating. The Canadian Firearms Center confirmed this author had registered this gun in 1946 upon his return to Canada. He also gave me a Langenhan pistol he took from a Luftwaffe officer. A great man and I was very pleased to aquire these pieces of history. Hope the pics are okay, thanks for looking. Joe

12-18-2005, 12:21 AM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,926 Thanks: 2,014 Thanked 4,523 Times in 2,089 Posts	Very nice Joe, looks like a nice one! Hey, I am slowly writing / gathering info for a book on bring backs. literally take the information I get from folks, like you, add pictures, and the text. I have about 40 entries so far If interested, shoot me an e-mail, the Langenhan I would be interested in as well weimar_simson@comcast.net Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

12-18-2005, 11:55 PM	#9
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,926 Thanks: 2,014 Thanked 4,523 Times in 2,089 Posts	Commerical (lazy crown N) __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

12-18-2005, 02:42 AM	#3
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,893 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,288 Times in 426 Posts	Joe, A very great piece of history, congratulations on beingable to preserve it. I recommend that you check the Langenhan for a crown-over-gothic-letter on the left frame, indication of military acceptance in WWI. --Dwight

12-18-2005, 03:27 AM	#4
minigun User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 424 Thanks: 15 Thanked 19 Times in 14 Posts	Darn nice!

12-18-2005, 06:56 AM	#5
Heinz User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Greenville SC Posts: 1,004 Thanks: 377 Thanked 410 Times in 180 Posts	Josef, very nice. There would also be interest in pictures of your Langenhan in addition to the information Dwight noted the serial number would be of interest. Thanks in advance

12-18-2005, 07:22 AM	#6
josef User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: CANADA Posts: 194 Thanks: 4 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Thanks Gentlemen, Edward I will get an accurate account of the details and email you shortly. WIth regards to the Langenhan, I will get pics up right away as well. I know it has the crown over N (I believe) and DRP (Deutches Reich patent??) on it, and the serial is low, 9xx I believe? Let me check for sure. Thanks again Gentlemen, Joe

12-18-2005, 11:07 AM	#7
josef User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: CANADA Posts: 194 Thanks: 4 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Just a little more information about the Langenhan I have before I gett eh pics up. It is an FL model apparently, has the "FL" on the grips. Pics up shortly hopefully, Joe

12-18-2005, 11:18 PM	#8
josef User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: CANADA Posts: 194 Thanks: 4 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Here is the Langenhan. can anyone tell the year of manufacture or if these marks are in fact military or commercial? Thanks very much, Joe

12-19-2005, 02:42 AM	#10
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,893 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,288 Times in 426 Posts	Joe, According to Ian V. Hogg the Fritz Langenhan Selbstladenpistole (self-loading pistol) sometimes called the Army Model, was developed in 1914 and patented in 1915. It was accepted for military applications by the Prussian army, and military pistols have a c/letter acceptance mark on the left frame. Yours has standard commercial proofs, but no acceptance mark--I was hoping for another pistol to add to the database. These guns are chambered for 7.65 Auto. If you are planning to shoot it, you should be sure that the takedown screw at the back of the slide is firmly tightened--if it becomes loose, the hinged finger-piece can flip up on its screw axle and allow the breechblock to recoil into your face. --Dwight

12-19-2005, 09:34 AM	#11
josef User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: CANADA Posts: 194 Thanks: 4 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Thanks Dwight very much. I forgot to add the vet told me he dismantled it during the war shortly after receiving it. He said he lost a part, can't remember which one, but improvosed with some other piece. It looks to me like a nail was used to hold her together. I think I will deactivate this and keep it rather than having someone fire her. Thanks once agai Gentlemen, Joe

12-19-2005, 11:21 PM	#12
minigun User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 424 Thanks: 15 Thanked 19 Times in 14 Posts	That smaller gun is very interesting in itself!