Need advice on purchase 1916

luscioman · 07-11-2005, 10:20 PM

I can get a 1916 dwm for about 850 now. Here is the description just need some advice on it. Also there are no pics but a 3 day inspection. Let me know if this is a decent deal.

WWI 1916-Dated DWM 9mm Luger with Matching Numbers. Nice example with 93% original blued finish. Extremely fine bore. All matching serial numbers in the 64xxi range with proper unnumbered wood bottom magazine. Wood bottom has small edge chip and initial "H" carved on it. Extremely fine checkered wood grips.

Dwight Gruber · 07-12-2005, 12:43 AM

Without pictures it is impossible to help you with an assessment. If the picture in your post is a picture of the gun, it is not possible to determine qualitative information aobut it.

One can say, that the magazine is not proper. An Imperial Army DWM magazine base is stamped with the gun's serial number with suffix, and a + if it is the spare magazine.

An unmarked wood base magazine would be proper for a Commercial or American Eagle Luger, 1900 or 1906 model. The H carved into it destroys any collection value it might otherwise have.

An original marked Imperial magazine in good shape might be had for $150 or so. If you decide to go after this Luger, you might consider this nearly valueless magazine as a negotiation point to reduce the price.

I would consider paying $850 for an Imperial Army DWM if it was in really excellent original shape with a good magazine. I would prefer to pay a bit less.

--Dwight

Lugerdoc · 07-13-2005, 10:19 AM

Dwight et al, How about an all matching (including exc checkered wood grips) 1916 Erfurt for $600? Unforturnately, it has been GI nickel plated. TH

Edward Tinker · 07-13-2005, 11:02 AM

I sold one recently for $450 (DWM nickle) including shipping, needed the money, I would pay $500 for yours Tom (shipped?)

bore?

nickle condition?

Ed

weimar_lugers@comcast.net

policeluger · 07-13-2005, 12:18 PM

I'll go $501 !.....hi Ed.....

Lugerdoc · 07-13-2005, 06:30 PM

Sorry guy, but it's currently on hold pending receipt of my asking price. TH

drbuster · 07-13-2005, 07:42 PM

Tom, Can't the chrome plating be electronically removed? If so, what would be the condition of the original blue finish?

Navy · 07-13-2005, 08:05 PM

drbuster,

You are looking at a *mighty* expensive restoration. between the labor involved in the disassembly and stripping PLUS the labor in polishing and restoration, it becomes economically invalid.

You still wind up with a restored gun that will command on a good day, about 65% of what an original piece in 80% condition will bring.

Restoring an abused gun is not economically a good idea unless the piece is extremely rare (read: worth BIG bucks) or historically significant.

My zwei pfennigs

Tom A.

Edward Tinker · 07-13-2005, 09:25 PM

yup, they are just fun to shoot

07-11-2005, 10:20 PM	#1
luscioman User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 113 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Need advice on purchase 1916 I can get a 1916 dwm for about 850 now. Here is the description just need some advice on it. Also there are no pics but a 3 day inspection. Let me know if this is a decent deal. WWI 1916-Dated DWM 9mm Luger with Matching Numbers. Nice example with 93% original blued finish. Extremely fine bore. All matching serial numbers in the 64xxi range with proper unnumbered wood bottom magazine. Wood bottom has small edge chip and initial "H" carved on it. Extremely fine checkered wood grips. Attached Images

07-13-2005, 10:19 AM	#3
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Dwight et al, How about an all matching (including exc checkered wood grips) 1916 Erfurt for $600? Unforturnately, it has been GI nickel plated. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

07-13-2005, 06:30 PM	#6
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Sorry guy, but it's currently on hold pending receipt of my asking price. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

07-13-2005, 09:25 PM	#9
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,926 Thanks: 2,014 Thanked 4,523 Times in 2,089 Posts	yup, they are just fun to shoot __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

07-12-2005, 12:43 AM	#2
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,893 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,288 Times in 426 Posts	Without pictures it is impossible to help you with an assessment. If the picture in your post is a picture of the gun, it is not possible to determine qualitative information aobut it. One can say, that the magazine is not proper. An Imperial Army DWM magazine base is stamped with the gun's serial number with suffix, and a + if it is the spare magazine. An unmarked wood base magazine would be proper for a Commercial or American Eagle Luger, 1900 or 1906 model. The H carved into it destroys any collection value it might otherwise have. An original marked Imperial magazine in good shape might be had for $150 or so. If you decide to go after this Luger, you might consider this nearly valueless magazine as a negotiation point to reduce the price. I would consider paying $850 for an Imperial Army DWM if it was in really excellent original shape with a good magazine. I would prefer to pay a bit less. --Dwight

07-13-2005, 11:02 AM	#4
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,926 Thanks: 2,014 Thanked 4,523 Times in 2,089 Posts	I sold one recently for $450 (DWM nickle) including shipping, needed the money, I would pay $500 for yours Tom (shipped?) bore? nickle condition? Ed weimar_lugers@comcast.net

07-13-2005, 12:18 PM	#5
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	I'll go $501 !.....hi Ed.....

07-13-2005, 07:42 PM	#7
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	Tom, Can't the chrome plating be electronically removed? If so, what would be the condition of the original blue finish?

07-13-2005, 08:05 PM	#8
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	drbuster, You are looking at a mighty expensive restoration. between the labor involved in the disassembly and stripping PLUS the labor in polishing and restoration, it becomes economically invalid. You still wind up with a restored gun that will command on a good day, about 65% of what an original piece in 80% condition will bring. Restoring an abused gun is not economically a good idea unless the piece is extremely rare (read: worth BIG bucks) or historically significant. My zwei pfennigs Tom A.