Some nice sounding guns in Germany

Edward Tinker · 07-11-2005, 11:20 PM

http://www.kirstein.com/w/esammler.htm
Parabellum

Krieghoff
DWM-Krieghoff 1921, Cal. 7.65, "Germany"-stamped, excellent
S-coded, Cal. 9 P., excellent
commercial, P-coded, Cal. 9 P., markings on side of grip, excellent
'36'-dated, Cal. 9 P., excellent
1937, Cal. 9 P., excellent
1940, Cal. 9 P., excellent

S/42, 42 and byf
S/42, K- coded, gothic S, Cal. 9 P., excellent
S/42, K- coded, gothic S, Cal. 9 P., fine
S/42, G-coded, Cal. 9 P., excellent
S/42, G-coded, Cal. 9 P., numbers + number of magazine match, fine
S/42, 1936 - 40, Cal. 9 P., excellent
42/41, Cal. 9 P., fine
42/40, Cal. 9 P., excellent
byf Ã?Â´s, Cal. 9 P., excellent

Mauser-Banner
Mauser-Banner 1938 - 42, Cal. 9 P., fine - excellent

DWM
Borchardt, in wooden case, complete with all accessories, Cal. 7.65, excellent
06, grip safety, 12cm-barrel (4 3/4"), Cal. 7.65, excellent
commercial 1920, N + crown, Cal. 7.65, excellent
commercial 1908, BU, Cal. 9 P., fine, rare !
1921, Simson-Sneak, Cal. 9 P., fine
1920/1917, Simson-Sneak, Cal. 9 P., fine
Finnland (SA), with holster, Cal. 7.65, fine
Stoeger, New York, 12cm-barrel (4 3/4"), Cal. 7.65, excellent
Reichswehrbuero 29, Cal. 9 P., excellent
1910/13, Cal. 9 P., fine - excellent

Karabiner
DWM 1920, Cal. 9 P., excellent

Erfurt
1913/20 (double-dated), Schiwy, with magazine-safety, Cal. 9 P., very good
1917, Cal. 9 P., numbers + number of magazine match, excellent
1918, Cal. 9 P., fine
1918, Cal. 9 P., excellent

Simson Suhl
blank chamber, excellent

Artillerie
Mauser Persien, with accessories, Cal. 9 P., excellent
DWM, Cal. 9 P., commercial
DWM, 1914 -18, Cal. 9 P., fair - excellent
Mauser-banner, 1936-dated, Siam-Kontrakt, Cal. 9 P., very rare !
Erfurt 1914, Cal. 9 P., partial with drum magazine + accessories, very good - excellent

Marine
DWM 1923, commercial, with holster and board , Cal. 7.65
DWM 1917, with holster, blue partial faded, Cal. 9 P., fine
DMW 1916, Cal. 9 P., fine - excellent

Navy · 07-12-2005, 12:08 AM

Be *VERY CAREFUL* here; you have little recourse if it a'in't what it's p'osed' ta be

Tom A.

Edward Tinker · 07-12-2005, 01:08 AM

oh, not planning on buying anything, it is like Sear's Catalog shopping

when I was a kid...

pipeman45 · 07-12-2005, 03:24 AM

Boy,do I miss the days when you could order a gun from Sears,( and several other places). And the good old US mail brought it right to your door.

lew1 · 07-12-2005, 07:00 AM

There was also the Montgomery Ward catalog.

drbuster · 07-12-2005, 12:34 PM

I hate sites like this....no photos....no prices! And how the heck do we here in the USA get our hands on this stuff? But I must admit, there is an impressive array of collectibles listed.

Navy · 07-12-2005, 01:56 PM

drbuster,

The way to do it is to have someone visit the seller, examine the guns and then make arrangements wiyth an importer here in the US.

Be prepared to spend a LOT of money, wait a long time and have no right of refusal if the pieces arrive in the US and you are not satisfied.

Tom A.
Who has bad memories of doing this

Edward Tinker · 07-12-2005, 03:54 PM

Tom, I agree, I would much rather buy from someone I trusted (you, Jerry, Bill, Russ, etc) then deal with overseas..... yuck, I'd at least want to look at it!

Ed

Big Norm · 07-12-2005, 11:25 PM

People should also be careful about currency fluctuations. The Euro is very expensive for Amerians at the moment. If money isn't a question, you might end up paying more that you would by just going on the open market in the USA. These guns are available in the USA if you are just willing to spend some time looking around. For instance, Doug Smith of FGS and Simpson frequently go the Europe to do some shopping. I am sure that there are other dealers too. But they may not be doing it now because the guns there are just too expensive to bring back.

But Tom A made a very good recommendation and it should be heeded. I give two thumbs up to his opinion.
Big Norm

07-11-2005, 11:20 PM	#1
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,933 Thanks: 2,032 Thanked 4,530 Times in 2,092 Posts	Some nice sounding guns in Germany http://www.kirstein.com/w/esammler.htm Parabellum Krieghoff DWM-Krieghoff 1921, Cal. 7.65, "Germany"-stamped, excellent S-coded, Cal. 9 P., excellent commercial, P-coded, Cal. 9 P., markings on side of grip, excellent '36'-dated, Cal. 9 P., excellent 1937, Cal. 9 P., excellent 1940, Cal. 9 P., excellent S/42, 42 and byf S/42, K- coded, gothic S, Cal. 9 P., excellent S/42, K- coded, gothic S, Cal. 9 P., fine S/42, G-coded, Cal. 9 P., excellent S/42, G-coded, Cal. 9 P., numbers + number of magazine match, fine S/42, 1936 - 40, Cal. 9 P., excellent 42/41, Cal. 9 P., fine 42/40, Cal. 9 P., excellent byf Ã?Â´s, Cal. 9 P., excellent Mauser-Banner Mauser-Banner 1938 - 42, Cal. 9 P., fine - excellent DWM Borchardt, in wooden case, complete with all accessories, Cal. 7.65, excellent 06, grip safety, 12cm-barrel (4 3/4"), Cal. 7.65, excellent commercial 1920, N + crown, Cal. 7.65, excellent commercial 1908, BU, Cal. 9 P., fine, rare ! 1921, Simson-Sneak, Cal. 9 P., fine 1920/1917, Simson-Sneak, Cal. 9 P., fine Finnland (SA), with holster, Cal. 7.65, fine Stoeger, New York, 12cm-barrel (4 3/4"), Cal. 7.65, excellent Reichswehrbuero 29, Cal. 9 P., excellent 1910/13, Cal. 9 P., fine - excellent Karabiner DWM 1920, Cal. 9 P., excellent Erfurt 1913/20 (double-dated), Schiwy, with magazine-safety, Cal. 9 P., very good 1917, Cal. 9 P., numbers + number of magazine match, excellent 1918, Cal. 9 P., fine 1918, Cal. 9 P., excellent Simson Suhl blank chamber, excellent Artillerie Mauser Persien, with accessories, Cal. 9 P., excellent DWM, Cal. 9 P., commercial DWM, 1914 -18, Cal. 9 P., fair - excellent Mauser-banner, 1936-dated, Siam-Kontrakt, Cal. 9 P., very rare ! Erfurt 1914, Cal. 9 P., partial with drum magazine + accessories, very good - excellent Marine DWM 1923, commercial, with holster and board , Cal. 7.65 DWM 1917, with holster, blue partial faded, Cal. 9 P., fine DMW 1916, Cal. 9 P., fine - excellent

07-12-2005, 03:24 AM	#4
pipeman45 User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kentucky Posts: 539 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Boy,do I miss the days when you could order a gun from Sears,( and several other places). And the good old US mail brought it right to your door. __________________ Dave

07-12-2005, 07:00 AM	#5
lew1 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,108 Thanks: 82 Thanked 204 Times in 112 Posts	There was also the Montgomery Ward catalog. __________________ charlie

07-12-2005, 03:54 PM	#8
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,933 Thanks: 2,032 Thanked 4,530 Times in 2,092 Posts	Tom, I agree, I would much rather buy from someone I trusted (you, Jerry, Bill, Russ, etc) then deal with overseas..... yuck, I'd at least want to look at it! Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

07-12-2005, 12:08 AM	#2
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	Be VERY CAREFUL here; you have little recourse if it a'in't what it's p'osed' ta be Tom A.

07-12-2005, 01:08 AM	#3
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,933 Thanks: 2,032 Thanked 4,530 Times in 2,092 Posts	oh, not planning on buying anything, it is like Sear's Catalog shopping when I was a kid...

07-12-2005, 12:34 PM	#6
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	I hate sites like this....no photos....no prices! And how the heck do we here in the USA get our hands on this stuff? But I must admit, there is an impressive array of collectibles listed.

07-12-2005, 01:56 PM	#7
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	drbuster, The way to do it is to have someone visit the seller, examine the guns and then make arrangements wiyth an importer here in the US. Be prepared to spend a LOT of money, wait a long time and have no right of refusal if the pieces arrive in the US and you are not satisfied. Tom A. Who has bad memories of doing this

07-12-2005, 11:25 PM	#9
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	People should also be careful about currency fluctuations. The Euro is very expensive for Amerians at the moment. If money isn't a question, you might end up paying more that you would by just going on the open market in the USA. These guns are available in the USA if you are just willing to spend some time looking around. For instance, Doug Smith of FGS and Simpson frequently go the Europe to do some shopping. I am sure that there are other dealers too. But they may not be doing it now because the guns there are just too expensive to bring back. But Tom A made a very good recommendation and it should be heeded. I give two thumbs up to his opinion. Big Norm