Swiss on boards

pipeman45 · 06-14-2005, 12:58 AM

Whats wrong with this picture?

http://www.auctionarms.com/search/di...temnum=6747786

Ron Wood · 06-14-2005, 01:04 AM

Nothing...well, other than a damaged receiver.

pipeman45 · 06-14-2005, 01:45 AM

Being an noobie. I know enough to know I know nothing, but wanting to learn.What do you think caused that?

Ron Wood · 06-14-2005, 02:04 AM

I haven't the foggiest notion. It appears to be a spall caused by being struck from the inside. Almost had to be done while disassembled, otherwise the breech block would show signs of damage. I don't believe it was the result of firing.

thegundude · 06-14-2005, 10:12 AM

Is that crest authentic? It looks like a home done job.

I would be willing to bet that Thor could restore the damaged reciever.

Ron Wood · 06-14-2005, 10:38 AM

It is a home done job. But, there are several of these around (I have one). The workmanship is better than a Bubba's basement alteration. My guess is that a Swiss gunsmith cranked out a few of these in the '20s, made up of recycled military and commercial pieces. Each one is slightly different and usually re-barreled. Mine, for example, has had a grip safety added. They probably were made for the commercial market and probably sold out of the gunsmith's shop. All of this is a WAG, so take it for what it is worth.

thegundude · 06-14-2005, 01:55 PM

As usual Ron, thanks for the info. It never occured to me that a gunsmith could or would do that. But I guess it makes sense....

John Sabato · 06-14-2005, 01:59 PM

I agree that the Swiss Cross on the toggle is a "home" brew. The "rays" that surround the cross are not symmetrical or evenly spaced...

pipeman45 · 06-15-2005, 12:14 AM

Thanks guys. All I knew was that the reciever had slight damage,and it just didn't look right.

06-14-2005, 12:58 AM	#1
pipeman45 User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kentucky Posts: 539 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Swiss on boards Whats wrong with this picture? http://www.auctionarms.com/search/di...temnum=6747786

06-14-2005, 01:04 AM	#2
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,178 Times in 1,703 Posts	Nothing...well, other than a damaged receiver. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

06-14-2005, 01:45 AM	#3
pipeman45 User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kentucky Posts: 539 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Being an noobie. I know enough to know I know nothing, but wanting to learn.What do you think caused that? __________________ Dave

06-14-2005, 02:04 AM	#4
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,178 Times in 1,703 Posts	I haven't the foggiest notion. It appears to be a spall caused by being struck from the inside. Almost had to be done while disassembled, otherwise the breech block would show signs of damage. I don't believe it was the result of firing. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

06-14-2005, 10:12 AM	#5
thegundude User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Western NC Posts: 1,137 Thanks: 3 Thanked 16 Times in 3 Posts	Is that crest authentic? It looks like a home done job. I would be willing to bet that Thor could restore the damaged reciever. __________________ Keep your knees in the breeze and your iron in the air. ~Steve

06-14-2005, 10:38 AM	#6
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,178 Times in 1,703 Posts	It is a home done job. But, there are several of these around (I have one). The workmanship is better than a Bubba's basement alteration. My guess is that a Swiss gunsmith cranked out a few of these in the '20s, made up of recycled military and commercial pieces. Each one is slightly different and usually re-barreled. Mine, for example, has had a grip safety added. They probably were made for the commercial market and probably sold out of the gunsmith's shop. All of this is a WAG, so take it for what it is worth. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

06-14-2005, 01:55 PM	#7
thegundude User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Western NC Posts: 1,137 Thanks: 3 Thanked 16 Times in 3 Posts	As usual Ron, thanks for the info. It never occured to me that a gunsmith could or would do that. But I guess it makes sense.... __________________ Keep your knees in the breeze and your iron in the air. ~Steve

06-14-2005, 01:59 PM	#8
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	I agree that the Swiss Cross on the toggle is a "home" brew. The "rays" that surround the cross are not symmetrical or evenly spaced... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

06-15-2005, 12:14 AM	#9
pipeman45 User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kentucky Posts: 539 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Thanks guys. All I knew was that the reciever had slight damage,and it just didn't look right. __________________ Dave