9mm Steyr to 9mm Luger chamber sleeve?

Karl · 02-03-2004, 01:46 PM

I saw this ad on auctionarms, a Steyr Hahn sleeved to 9mm Luger:
http://www.auctionarms.com/search/di...temnum=5444244
I would be interested to know where I could get such a sleeve made. KFS

John Sabato · 02-03-2004, 08:43 PM

Karl,

Get some drawings of the 9mm Luger and the 9mm Steyr cartridges and compare the dimensions... the sleeve would have to take up the differences between the two cases... any machine shop or gunsmith should be able to fabricate the sleeve from a piece of old 30 caliber rifle barrel, BUT I don't think this sounds like a safe idea to me...

Perhaps there is someone among the members that has performed this change and can comment.

Edward Tinker · 02-03-2004, 09:47 PM

I am guessing it is like the 30-06 to 308 Win sleeves? They push in and will stay, or you add locktight and it stays semi-permanently.

I have heard that they come out on the darndest occassions...

Ed

ViggoG · 02-04-2004, 02:45 AM

Ed,... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />
They come out because the Loctite cement is one of the Florine activated Crystaline bonding agents....

Because of the Crystaline structure these cements are very strong and resistant to rather large sheer loads, HOWEVER a sudden small shock applied to the bonded parts sends a "Shock Wave" radiating through the parts which shatters the Crystaline bond structure releasing the bonded parts.... <img border="0" alt="[ouch]" title="" src="graemlins/c.gif" />
The Loctite formula is one of the more shock tolerant agents, but still not impervious to Shock....

Its a shame that the fireing of the weapon is a shock generating action.
Another problem sometime results when the bonded parts are ferrous metals, rust in the joint resulting from the release of Florine gas which is the catalytic agent in the bonding agent.
This gas is released in excess quanities to assure complete chemical reduction of the liquid to a crystaline form.
The excess florine attacks the surrounding steel or iron....

My Observations.
ViggoG

02-03-2004, 01:46 PM	#1
Karl Lifer - Twice Over Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Savannah Posts: 515 Thanks: 0 Thanked 252 Times in 112 Posts	9mm Steyr to 9mm Luger chamber sleeve? I saw this ad on auctionarms, a Steyr Hahn sleeved to 9mm Luger: http://www.auctionarms.com/search/di...temnum=5444244 I would be interested to know where I could get such a sleeve made. KFS

02-03-2004, 08:43 PM	#2
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,152 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Karl, Get some drawings of the 9mm Luger and the 9mm Steyr cartridges and compare the dimensions... the sleeve would have to take up the differences between the two cases... any machine shop or gunsmith should be able to fabricate the sleeve from a piece of old 30 caliber rifle barrel, BUT I don't think this sounds like a safe idea to me... Perhaps there is someone among the members that has performed this change and can comment. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

02-03-2004, 09:47 PM	#3
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,916 Thanks: 1,992 Thanked 4,507 Times in 2,081 Posts	I am guessing it is like the 30-06 to 308 Win sleeves? They push in and will stay, or you add locktight and it stays semi-permanently. I have heard that they come out on the darndest occassions... Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

02-04-2004, 02:45 AM	#4
ViggoG RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: South Side Virginia Posts: 534 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Ed,... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> They come out because the Loctite cement is one of the Florine activated Crystaline bonding agents.... Because of the Crystaline structure these cements are very strong and resistant to rather large sheer loads, HOWEVER a sudden small shock applied to the bonded parts sends a "Shock Wave" radiating through the parts which shatters the Crystaline bond structure releasing the bonded parts.... <img border="0" alt="[ouch]" title="" src="graemlins/c.gif" /> The Loctite formula is one of the more shock tolerant agents, but still not impervious to Shock.... Its a shame that the fireing of the weapon is a shock generating action. Another problem sometime results when the bonded parts are ferrous metals, rust in the joint resulting from the release of Florine gas which is the catalytic agent in the bonding agent. This gas is released in excess quanities to assure complete chemical reduction of the liquid to a crystaline form. The excess florine attacks the surrounding steel or iron.... My Observations. ViggoG