A sincere apology

Navy · 04-06-2004, 10:06 PM

To all whom my intemperate words may have offended, I sincerely apologize. I fear that a combination of a great deal of stress due to overwork, added to the angst of seeing the sights from Fallugha while learning of my sons warning orders to go yet again in to the cauldron affected me. Combine this with some self-medication via barrel squeezins' and there is a perfect scenario for Old Fatmouth (Keyboard?) to make an ass of himself in public.

To any and all I may have offended, I apologize.

And FWIW, John D. "took me to the woodshed" in a style that would have made my beloved Grandpa' proud.

Tom A.

G.T. · 04-06-2004, 10:12 PM

Hi Tom! I don't know you all that well, but I know what it takes to make a statement like that... And, let me be the first to welcome you back, my hats off to you! Best to you, and your son, who's about to go into harms way! Til...lat'r...GT

Thor · 04-06-2004, 10:24 PM

Welcome back Tom!!

Greg · 04-06-2004, 10:24 PM

Tom,

I would welcome the opportunity to raise a glass with you anytime. Welcome back!!

Greg

Edward Tinker · 04-06-2004, 10:45 PM

Tom, I know it takes real courage to write an apology that others may read publically.

I hope you stay on the forum and read, contribute and stay here to share your Ã¢??war-storiesÃ¢?Â.

And may God walk with your son, nothing is more scary than them going into harms way where we canÃ¢??t help them. After all, they are always our children.

Ed

G.W. Gill · 04-07-2004, 01:32 AM

Tom, I also wrote John D. an apology. You are not in a lone boat. I too was amiss and offer apologies.

Ron Wood · 04-07-2004, 01:40 AM

Words do not fail me now. Your earlier post hurt in many ways but your apology is sincere and from a good heart. The slate is clean in my book.
God bless you and your son, and may He give understanding to those your son will face and bring us peace. Welcome back Tom.

minigun · 04-07-2004, 02:42 AM

Godbless your son for his work in Iraq.

John D. · 04-07-2004, 08:17 AM

Hey Tom (and GW!!!)..!

Welcome back, Tom!!!

I would also like to add two comments......

First - it takes a tough man, with dignity, pride and honor to make the post you did above. My sincerest respect for that. Both of you....

Second - Tom, your son in is Jen's and my thoughts and prayers.

Third (OK - I guess I have 3 comments). Anyone who has the fortitude to privately reply to one of my "into the woodshed" e-mails, also has an incredible level of courage.

Again - welcome Back, Tom...!!

policeluger · 04-07-2004, 10:28 AM

Tom, I am at a lost for words too express my feelings, but I will try, and I hope that you read this, feeling as I do, that we are all God's children. Perhaps for me it all started during the Iran hostage crisis, at the time I was mid way through a federal career, passed two tours of duty in VN and 2 p/hearts....and I was having my loyalty questioned by NIS (now NCIS, as I was an engineer with the Dept of the Navy) as to what were my connections to Iran...Whoa back this up FYI I am half Iranian on my war bride mothers side...and was I a "true" American. I alway felt I was nothing but a true American, but very proud of my mothers side, and know what warm and wonderful people thay were...then came 9/11 and an entire new attack on me by Navy management, so much so that I filed and won an EEO complaint, there were several derogatory remarks made towards my background...I feel sometimes up aginist a wall I can't scale. Now I dislike political/religious fanitics, who want to destroy all who do not agree with them, and I believe I do have an understanding why some parts of the world hates America, my grandmother would be a good starting point, but we are all childern of God, your good sons, mine, and Mohammed Atta's...the first, I believe, identified pilots in the twin tower plane crashes (and he is answering to God for his actions). We must all learn to forgive and accept each other. Tom I want to thank you for your apology, I am very sorry if I hurt your feelings, I could not handle my son having to serve in a war zone, it scares me to walk in your shoes right now. Lets get on with Lugers...the bound that ties. Thanks for all that emailed with support!

John Sabato · 04-07-2004, 01:13 PM

Welcome back brother Tom. I was absent due to family obligations when all this took place... and can't even voice my upset to have stood at the ashes and wondered where it all went wrong... and what would it take to put things right again?

And yet here we are "survivors" once again...

The tribe has spoken

To Tom A. for being man enough to start it, and to all who have posted to this thread... this is just one more example of what a fine bunch of folks populate this forum on a regular basis...

I am honored to be associated with all of you... and it isn't just Lugers that tie us together in my opinion... it is honor, integrity, some not so quiet patriotism, and belief in the principles that founded this country, and our desire to see that it prevails.

I have always considered my efforts over the last few years, that I put into the background operation and admin of this forum to be a privilege... thanks for keeping it so. Y'all make me proud.

Just my $0.02... better late than never.

Ron Smith · 04-10-2004, 04:12 PM

Tom, I'm fairly new to the forum, but it takes a MAN, to stand square shouldered,and admit he made a mistake. If your son has his daddys genes, he'll do just fine.

Ron

04-06-2004, 10:06 PM	#1
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	A sincere apology To all whom my intemperate words may have offended, I sincerely apologize. I fear that a combination of a great deal of stress due to overwork, added to the angst of seeing the sights from Fallugha while learning of my sons warning orders to go yet again in to the cauldron affected me. Combine this with some self-medication via barrel squeezins' and there is a perfect scenario for Old Fatmouth (Keyboard?) to make an ass of himself in public. To any and all I may have offended, I apologize. And FWIW, John D. "took me to the woodshed" in a style that would have made my beloved Grandpa' proud. Tom A.

04-06-2004, 10:24 PM	#3
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Welcome back Tom!! __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

04-06-2004, 10:45 PM	#5
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,916 Thanks: 1,992 Thanked 4,507 Times in 2,081 Posts	Tom, I know it takes real courage to write an apology that others may read publically. I hope you stay on the forum and read, contribute and stay here to share your Ã¢??war-storiesÃ¢?Â. And may God walk with your son, nothing is more scary than them going into harms way where we canÃ¢??t help them. After all, they are always our children. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

04-07-2004, 01:40 AM	#7
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,988 Thanks: 1,067 Thanked 5,099 Times in 1,676 Posts	Words do not fail me now. Your earlier post hurt in many ways but your apology is sincere and from a good heart. The slate is clean in my book. God bless you and your son, and may He give understanding to those your son will face and bring us peace. Welcome back Tom. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

04-07-2004, 01:13 PM	#11
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,152 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Welcome back brother Tom. I was absent due to family obligations when all this took place... and can't even voice my upset to have stood at the ashes and wondered where it all went wrong... and what would it take to put things right again? And yet here we are "survivors" once again... The tribe has spoken To Tom A. for being man enough to start it, and to all who have posted to this thread... this is just one more example of what a fine bunch of folks populate this forum on a regular basis... I am honored to be associated with all of you... and it isn't just Lugers that tie us together in my opinion... it is honor, integrity, some not so quiet patriotism, and belief in the principles that founded this country, and our desire to see that it prevails. I have always considered my efforts over the last few years, that I put into the background operation and admin of this forum to be a privilege... thanks for keeping it so. Y'all make me proud. Just my $0.02... better late than never. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

04-06-2004, 10:12 PM	#2
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,486 Thanks: 1,284 Thanked 3,583 Times in 989 Posts	Hi Tom! I don't know you all that well, but I know what it takes to make a statement like that... And, let me be the first to welcome you back, my hats off to you! Best to you, and your son, who's about to go into harms way! Til...lat'r...GT

04-06-2004, 10:24 PM	#4
Greg User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southern U.S. Posts: 181 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Tom, I would welcome the opportunity to raise a glass with you anytime. Welcome back!! Greg

04-07-2004, 01:32 AM	#6
G.W. Gill User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeastern USA Posts: 369 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Tom, I also wrote John D. an apology. You are not in a lone boat. I too was amiss and offer apologies.

04-07-2004, 02:42 AM	#8
minigun User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 424 Thanks: 15 Thanked 19 Times in 14 Posts	Godbless your son for his work in Iraq.

04-07-2004, 08:17 AM	#9
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 473 Thanked 513 Times in 127 Posts	Hey Tom (and GW!!!)..! Welcome back, Tom!!! I would also like to add two comments...... First - it takes a tough man, with dignity, pride and honor to make the post you did above. My sincerest respect for that. Both of you.... Second - Tom, your son in is Jen's and my thoughts and prayers. Third (OK - I guess I have 3 comments). Anyone who has the fortitude to privately reply to one of my "into the woodshed" e-mails, also has an incredible level of courage. Again - welcome Back, Tom...!!

04-07-2004, 10:28 AM	#10
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	Tom, I am at a lost for words too express my feelings, but I will try, and I hope that you read this, feeling as I do, that we are all God's children. Perhaps for me it all started during the Iran hostage crisis, at the time I was mid way through a federal career, passed two tours of duty in VN and 2 p/hearts....and I was having my loyalty questioned by NIS (now NCIS, as I was an engineer with the Dept of the Navy) as to what were my connections to Iran...Whoa back this up FYI I am half Iranian on my war bride mothers side...and was I a "true" American. I alway felt I was nothing but a true American, but very proud of my mothers side, and know what warm and wonderful people thay were...then came 9/11 and an entire new attack on me by Navy management, so much so that I filed and won an EEO complaint, there were several derogatory remarks made towards my background...I feel sometimes up aginist a wall I can't scale. Now I dislike political/religious fanitics, who want to destroy all who do not agree with them, and I believe I do have an understanding why some parts of the world hates America, my grandmother would be a good starting point, but we are all childern of God, your good sons, mine, and Mohammed Atta's...the first, I believe, identified pilots in the twin tower plane crashes (and he is answering to God for his actions). We must all learn to forgive and accept each other. Tom I want to thank you for your apology, I am very sorry if I hurt your feelings, I could not handle my son having to serve in a war zone, it scares me to walk in your shoes right now. Lets get on with Lugers...the bound that ties. Thanks for all that emailed with support!

04-10-2004, 04:12 PM	#12
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Tom, I'm fairly new to the forum, but it takes a MAN, to stand square shouldered,and admit he made a mistake. If your son has his daddys genes, he'll do just fine. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...