9mm and 45 cal - Page 2

Doubs · 09-28-2003, 01:44 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Edward Tinker:
I think the "clips" vs "magazines" arguement is a bit funny (no offense John). Ed<hr /></blockquote>Fifty years ago, people weren't quite so precise with terminology and it was common to interchange the words "clip" and "magazine". I was probably 13 or 14 when my father explained the technical difference between the terms.

About 20 years ago I worked for an Air Force Chief Master Sargeant named Bucholtz. Everyone called him "Chief Buck-holtz". I asked him one day if anyone ever called him "Book-oltz" and I'll always remember his reply. He said "At home, everyone does but you can't correct the entire Air Force".

Last night I watched a bit of the "History Channel" and the narrator insisted on calling Eva Braun "Eva Brawn" when her name should be pronounced "Brown". Even the "History Channel" gets it wrong!

In truth, you would think that collectors of firearms would know the difference between "clips" and "magazines" but there are always new collectors who don't because they are learning. I don't see anything wrong with gently educating them in the proper terminology but it shouldn't become an irritation because it's an up-hill battle and, as the Chief said, you can't correct everyone.

Edward Tinker · 09-28-2003, 01:55 PM

True and I agree with you Doubs, good point, and since I lived in Europe, I am always slightly irritated at people who mispronounce (usually very badly) European words.

Good point, my apoligies, as you both are correct! I will amend my thinking, seriously,

Ed

Frank · 09-28-2003, 04:55 PM

It's easy to remember - Clips feed magazines, Magazines feed weapons!!!!! So there, Ed

kidvett · 09-28-2003, 07:50 PM

Interesting topic...

Balistic results from....

Top row:

Win 9MM BLACK TALON 147 gr Wicked stuff !!
Win 9MM RANGER SXT 147 gr Service Load
Federal 9MM NYCLAD 124 gr ( Good performer )

Bottom Row :

CCI 45 Auto 200 gr Flying Astray
Win 44 Mag 210 gr Silvertip

Your Pick !! Personnally, I like'em big bores !!

Mark

Edward Tinker · 09-28-2003, 09:23 PM

Frank, remember I was an MP

and multi-purpose means we use the equipment, not coddle it, some collector (if they ever sell our old 1911A1's), will be amazed at how we beat up our Colts!

Ed

09-28-2003, 01:44 PM	#1
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,736 Thanks: 819 Thanked 1,769 Times in 586 Posts	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by Edward Tinker: <strong>I think the "clips" vs "magazines" arguement is a bit funny (no offense John). Ed</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Fifty years ago, people weren't quite so precise with terminology and it was common to interchange the words "clip" and "magazine". I was probably 13 or 14 when my father explained the technical difference between the terms. About 20 years ago I worked for an Air Force Chief Master Sargeant named Bucholtz. Everyone called him "Chief Buck-holtz". I asked him one day if anyone ever called him "Book-oltz" and I'll always remember his reply. He said "At home, everyone does but you can't correct the entire Air Force". Last night I watched a bit of the "History Channel" and the narrator insisted on calling Eva Braun "Eva Brawn" when her name should be pronounced "Brown". Even the "History Channel" gets it wrong! In truth, you would think that collectors of firearms would know the difference between "clips" and "magazines" but there are always new collectors who don't because they are learning. I don't see anything wrong with gently educating them in the proper terminology but it shouldn't become an irritation because it's an up-hill battle and, as the Chief said, you can't correct everyone.

09-28-2003, 01:55 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	True and I agree with you Doubs, good point, and since I lived in Europe, I am always slightly irritated at people who mispronounce (usually very badly) European words. Good point, my apoligies, as you both are correct! I will amend my thinking, seriously, Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

09-28-2003, 09:23 PM	#5
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	Frank, remember I was an MP and multi-purpose means we use the equipment, not coddle it, some collector (if they ever sell our old 1911A1's), will be amazed at how we beat up our Colts! Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

09-28-2003, 04:55 PM	#3
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 164 Times in 87 Posts	It's easy to remember - Clips feed magazines, Magazines feed weapons!!!!! So there, Ed

09-28-2003, 07:50 PM	#4
kidvett User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 584 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Interesting topic... Balistic results from.... Top row: Win 9MM BLACK TALON 147 gr Wicked stuff !! Win 9MM RANGER SXT 147 gr Service Load Federal 9MM NYCLAD 124 gr ( Good performer ) Bottom Row : CCI 45 Auto 200 gr Flying Astray Win 44 Mag 210 gr Silvertip Your Pick !! Personnally, I like'em big bores !! Mark