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triumph · 03-14-2003, 04:50 PM

why would a luger hold open with ammo still in the mag?

Thor · 03-14-2003, 07:04 PM

I have seen this before, usually either a weak hold open spring and the hold open is probably cycling from firing vibration during the firing/loading sequence or it gets caught by the frame if it sticks a bit. The other cause was magazines that actually lift the hold open with one round remaining. Rick is right, take the top off the frame and put a loaded/and unloaded mag in the frame and see how the hold open moves, sticks (or not). A lot of the time you can tell quite a bit with just an empty mag in there and push the hold open down with your thumb, does it pop up smoothly? Good luck!

Steve Richards · 03-18-2003, 12:31 AM

I had the same problem on one of mine. It locked open with one round left in the magazine. If you have it, the E-Book "Luger Mechanical Features" by Gerard Henrotin has an excelent description and cure for this very problem on the page titled "Troubles with the Luger". It involves some filing so if your gun is matching you might want to get a replacement hold open latch to use.

If you do not have the book, this gives you a great excuse to spend about $9.00 to get a good description of how these guns work. Of course then you will want the other 4 but for the price you won't be out very much.

Steve Richards

triumph · 03-24-2003, 04:22 PM

thanks any where to get the real book e-book will not work with web tv

John Sabato · 03-24-2003, 05:00 PM

Sorry, but there is no printed version of these books.

WebTV just has it's limitations. it was designed to allow the masses to surf the web and participate in email... if you want to do REAL computer stuff...like read read the e-books, it is time for you to upgrade to a real computer.

The only solution short of this is to use someone else's computer and install the e-book on their computer...

Steve Richards · 03-27-2003, 01:31 AM

Triumph,

If you would like, I can mail you a copy of the pages in question. Click on the private message icon (it has 2 people and an envelope) to send me your address and I can mail the papers to you.

Steve Richards · 04-06-2003, 03:42 AM

I have had a couple of requests for these pages so here they are:

http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/smr2.gif
http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/smr3.jpg
http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/smr4.jpg

03-14-2003, 04:50 PM	#1
triumph User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: miami Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	why why would a luger hold open with ammo still in the mag? __________________ tr6r

03-14-2003, 07:04 PM	#2
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	I have seen this before, usually either a weak hold open spring and the hold open is probably cycling from firing vibration during the firing/loading sequence or it gets caught by the frame if it sticks a bit. The other cause was magazines that actually lift the hold open with one round remaining. Rick is right, take the top off the frame and put a loaded/and unloaded mag in the frame and see how the hold open moves, sticks (or not). A lot of the time you can tell quite a bit with just an empty mag in there and push the hold open down with your thumb, does it pop up smoothly? Good luck! __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

03-24-2003, 04:22 PM	#4
triumph User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: miami Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thanks any where to get the real book e-book will not work with web tv __________________ tr6r

03-24-2003, 05:00 PM	#5
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Sorry, but there is no printed version of these books. WebTV just has it's limitations. it was designed to allow the masses to surf the web and participate in email... if you want to do REAL computer stuff...like read read the e-books, it is time for you to upgrade to a real computer. The only solution short of this is to use someone else's computer and install the e-book on their computer... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

03-18-2003, 12:31 AM	#3
Steve Richards User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 487 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I had the same problem on one of mine. It locked open with one round left in the magazine. If you have it, the E-Book "Luger Mechanical Features" by Gerard Henrotin has an excelent description and cure for this very problem on the page titled "Troubles with the Luger". It involves some filing so if your gun is matching you might want to get a replacement hold open latch to use. If you do not have the book, this gives you a great excuse to spend about $9.00 to get a good description of how these guns work. Of course then you will want the other 4 but for the price you won't be out very much. Steve Richards

03-27-2003, 01:31 AM	#6
Steve Richards User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 487 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Triumph, If you would like, I can mail you a copy of the pages in question. Click on the private message icon (it has 2 people and an envelope) to send me your address and I can mail the papers to you.

04-06-2003, 03:42 AM	#7
Steve Richards User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 487 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I have had a couple of requests for these pages so here they are: http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/smr2.gif http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/smr3.jpg http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/smr4.jpg