Not A Swiss Luger Holster...???

Pete Ebbink · 08-10-2004, 09:53 PM

...now on e-Bay...think it is a Sig holster and not one for a Swiss luger...still a nice offering...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...262141411&rd=1

Pete Ebbink · 08-11-2004, 03:55 PM

Have been trading some nice emails with the seller.

This holster is Ordnance marked and is dated '43; which predates the use of the SIG semi-auto by the Swiss.

The seller is having a friend bring over a Swiss luger magazine to see if it will fit in the magazine pouch. If it does, it might be a late variation of a holster for Swiss ordnance lugers. Seller says this type was used for lugers in the 1943 to 1973 timeframe.

In the French booklet titled "Le Luger Un Pistolet de Legende, No. 9" on page 64 a photo shows this type of Swiss holster. Caption says they were commercial holsters...

The impression of the gun inside the holster, as shown in the seller's ad photo, does not appear to be the grip/magazine impression of a luger IMHO...so, some what of a mystery...see photo, below :

Stay tuned for more details...

p.s. Here is a SIG rig photo from the FGS, Inc. web site...I think this holster on e-Bay looks identical to the one in the FGS photo...

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

Guisan · 08-12-2004, 04:31 AM

This is 100% sure a P49 (210)holster.

Just look at the black dents in the leather, the one inside is made by the lanyard loop and the one at the right was made by the extending magazine bottom plate.
The back of the holster shows the extra rivet to secure the holster in place on the waist belt.

A 06/29 holster would have shown two black "dots" inside from the sides of the Luger magazine bottom and the one at the right would have been one black dot made by that same bottom.

Thanks,
Guisan.

Pete Ebbink · 08-12-2004, 09:51 AM

Hi Frank,

The seller did tell me in his emails that this holster is 1943 dated. Is that date possible to match up with a SIG pistol...?

But I, too, think a Luger did not make the pistol marks inside the leather...

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

Guisan · 08-12-2004, 01:20 PM

No the style of the early Neuhausen holsters was a different one.

Because of the extra rivet I would date this holster from the sixties or seventies and it might be a 73 one with the 7 upside down stamped that makes it look like 43.
I sure would like to see a picture of that year stamp.

Thanks,
Guisan.

08-10-2004, 09:53 PM	#1
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Not A Swiss Luger Holster...??? ...now on e-Bay...think it is a Sig holster and not one for a Swiss luger...still a nice offering... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...262141411&rd=1

08-12-2004, 04:31 AM	#3
Guisan User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 112 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	This is 100% sure a P49 (210)holster. Just look at the black dents in the leather, the one inside is made by the lanyard loop and the one at the right was made by the extending magazine bottom plate. The back of the holster shows the extra rivet to secure the holster in place on the waist belt. A 06/29 holster would have shown two black "dots" inside from the sides of the Luger magazine bottom and the one at the right would have been one black dot made by that same bottom. Thanks, Guisan. __________________ Fight to your last cartridge, then fight with your bayonets. No surrender. Fight to the death. --Gen. Henri Guisan, Switzerland, July '40

08-12-2004, 01:20 PM	#5
Guisan User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 112 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	No the style of the early Neuhausen holsters was a different one. Because of the extra rivet I would date this holster from the sixties or seventies and it might be a 73 one with the 7 upside down stamped that makes it look like 43. I sure would like to see a picture of that year stamp. Thanks, Guisan. __________________ Fight to your last cartridge, then fight with your bayonets. No surrender. Fight to the death. --Gen. Henri Guisan, Switzerland, July '40

08-11-2004, 03:55 PM	#2
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Have been trading some nice emails with the seller. This holster is Ordnance marked and is dated '43; which predates the use of the SIG semi-auto by the Swiss. The seller is having a friend bring over a Swiss luger magazine to see if it will fit in the magazine pouch. If it does, it might be a late variation of a holster for Swiss ordnance lugers. Seller says this type was used for lugers in the 1943 to 1973 timeframe. In the French booklet titled "Le Luger Un Pistolet de Legende, No. 9" on page 64 a photo shows this type of Swiss holster. Caption says they were commercial holsters... The impression of the gun inside the holster, as shown in the seller's ad photo, does not appear to be the grip/magazine impression of a luger IMHO...so, some what of a mystery...see photo, below : Stay tuned for more details... p.s. Here is a SIG rig photo from the FGS, Inc. web site...I think this holster on e-Bay looks identical to the one in the FGS photo... Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

08-12-2004, 09:51 AM	#4
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hi Frank, The seller did tell me in his emails that this holster is 1943 dated. Is that date possible to match up with a SIG pistol...? But I, too, think a Luger did not make the pistol marks inside the leather... Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />