Nice photo

Roadkill · 01-28-2003, 09:46 PM

http://www.hermann-historica.com/auk...s/lot/2414.htm

http://www.hermann-historica.com/auk...s/lot/2415.htm

rk

pisto · 03-05-2003, 06:11 PM

Interesting Auction, just 120 miles away from me.
Thanks for telling me.

John Sabato · 03-05-2003, 06:20 PM

Don't get too excited Roland. These are nice photos, but Auktion 43 ENDED last year. The first price was the minimum bid, and second price is what it actually sold for.

Big Norm · 03-05-2003, 07:52 PM

A little too much shine on the barrel of the 1908. Maybe a re-blue. If not, where are these good guns in the USA?
The model 1914 looks terrible. But if the stock is an original navy then the gun was a bargain.

I recently talked to an import/export guy from England and he was surprised at the prices Americans pay for Lugers. He said that the Borchardt prices have dropped through the floor in Europe. We were looking at a georgeous DWM Borchardt with 5 mags (none matched the gun), original case (possible bad condition), well worn out original holster and a whole bunch of extra stuff like the original hold open mag and stock for $18,500. He said that that set would go for $13-15,000 in Germany. We both agreed that the gun was fabulous. Not a scratch on it. But 18 grand...?
Big Norm

Ron Wood · 03-05-2003, 08:27 PM

If you think $18K is a lot, check out the one that Randy Bessler (www.collectorfirearms.us) has for $25K!! It is a beauty.

Navy · 03-05-2003, 10:02 PM

The logic is simple: there is a finite supply of excellent condition fine collector grade guns; there is an infinite supply of money. Most serious Luger collectors can afford the extra "reach" to get what they need for their collections.

One can ALWAYS get more money. My only regrets about Lugers are the ones I sold and the ones that i did not buy.
TA
for sus: thumbs down

Big Norm · 03-10-2003, 12:32 AM

I thought that the gun was great. But the rest of the stuff was in bad shape. I went back to that gun show the next day to see if I could make a counter offer but the seller was gone. I have his telephone number, but since I already have a DWM Borchardt, I don't think that I'll do it. But I did some serious thinking on it. The hold open and the five magazines really caught my attention. My gun also does not have the original strap that goes around the toe of the holster and the stock. This one did. The owner would not let me hold the gun without gloves and I could not examine the case. I examined the gun using a small piece of tissue paper. I now carry a pair of rubber gloves in my gun show carrying pouch.
Big Norm

Ron Wood · 03-10-2003, 01:09 AM

Norm,
Rubber gloves are OK, but they get really uncomfortable quickly. Check out gloves-online.com. They have cotton and nylon gloves that are inexpensive. I usually buy the one-size-fits-all nylon, Item #NYP-M404-U, for $15.95 per dozen. They are cheap enough to use a few times and then throw away when they become too soiled.

karmast · 03-13-2003, 07:31 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Roadkill:
http://www.hermann-historica.com/auk...s/lot/2414.htm

http://www.hermann-historica.com/auk...s/lot/2415.htm

rk<hr /></blockquote>Yes, they are really great! Luky buyer!!

The 1914-type had a matching mag with it, the gun all matching numbers and the barrel in great cond.

The 1908-type was described as "not reblued", all numbers matching..

I wish I could owen such a wonderful piece of history in some day!

01-28-2003, 09:46 PM	#1
Roadkill User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,632 Thanks: 1 Thanked 28 Times in 17 Posts	Nice photo http://www.hermann-historica.com/auk...s/lot/2414.htm http://www.hermann-historica.com/auk...s/lot/2415.htm rk

03-05-2003, 06:20 PM	#3
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	Don't get too excited Roland. These are nice photos, but Auktion 43 ENDED last year. The first price was the minimum bid, and second price is what it actually sold for. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

03-05-2003, 08:27 PM	#5
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,178 Times in 1,703 Posts	If you think $18K is a lot, check out the one that Randy Bessler (www.collectorfirearms.us) has for $25K!! It is a beauty. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

03-10-2003, 01:09 AM	#8
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,178 Times in 1,703 Posts	Norm, Rubber gloves are OK, but they get really uncomfortable quickly. Check out gloves-online.com. They have cotton and nylon gloves that are inexpensive. I usually buy the one-size-fits-all nylon, Item #NYP-M404-U, for $15.95 per dozen. They are cheap enough to use a few times and then throw away when they become too soiled. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

03-13-2003, 07:31 AM	#9
karmast User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 57 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by Roadkill: <strong>http://www.hermann-historica.com/auk...s/lot/2414.htm http://www.hermann-historica.com/auk...s/lot/2415.htm rk</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Yes, they are really great! Luky buyer!! The 1914-type had a matching mag with it, the gun all matching numbers and the barrel in great cond. The 1908-type was described as "not reblued", all numbers matching.. I wish I could owen such a wonderful piece of history in some day! __________________ Every Luger tells a story - but you have to find out what it says..

03-05-2003, 06:11 PM	#2
pisto User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 228 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Interesting Auction, just 120 miles away from me. Thanks for telling me.

03-05-2003, 07:52 PM	#4
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	A little too much shine on the barrel of the 1908. Maybe a re-blue. If not, where are these good guns in the USA? The model 1914 looks terrible. But if the stock is an original navy then the gun was a bargain. I recently talked to an import/export guy from England and he was surprised at the prices Americans pay for Lugers. He said that the Borchardt prices have dropped through the floor in Europe. We were looking at a georgeous DWM Borchardt with 5 mags (none matched the gun), original case (possible bad condition), well worn out original holster and a whole bunch of extra stuff like the original hold open mag and stock for $18,500. He said that that set would go for $13-15,000 in Germany. We both agreed that the gun was fabulous. Not a scratch on it. But 18 grand...? Big Norm

03-05-2003, 10:02 PM	#6
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	The logic is simple: there is a finite supply of excellent condition fine collector grade guns; there is an infinite supply of money. Most serious Luger collectors can afford the extra "reach" to get what they need for their collections. One can ALWAYS get more money. My only regrets about Lugers are the ones I sold and the ones that i did not buy. TA for sus: thumbs down

03-10-2003, 12:32 AM	#7
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	I thought that the gun was great. But the rest of the stuff was in bad shape. I went back to that gun show the next day to see if I could make a counter offer but the seller was gone. I have his telephone number, but since I already have a DWM Borchardt, I don't think that I'll do it. But I did some serious thinking on it. The hold open and the five magazines really caught my attention. My gun also does not have the original strap that goes around the toe of the holster and the stock. This one did. The owner would not let me hold the gun without gloves and I could not examine the case. I examined the gun using a small piece of tissue paper. I now carry a pair of rubber gloves in my gun show carrying pouch. Big Norm