Articles on Gun Fakery...

Pete Ebbink · 11-07-2003, 08:55 PM

Mr. Curt Jensen just posted a couple of great articles written about the business of gun fakery on Jan Still's forum :

http://www.gunboards.com/luger/default.asp

Thought folks here might appreciate reading these articles, if they did not see the links on Jan's site :

http://www.armchairgunshow.com/fake.htm

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/roadsh...rms/index.html

Regards,

Pete...

CG of MP · 11-07-2003, 11:06 PM

Simply excellent...

I am AMAZED that PBS has anything about evil GUNS on their site. Very cool.

This is good stuff Pete, in the Garand community, faked stoks with new cartouche stamps are a REAL problem for collectors and its created firestorms on other boards.

Thanks again.
Charles

Pete Ebbink · 11-10-2003, 12:13 PM

The two points in the article that stand out in my reading are :

1. Rather than taking your first $ 2,000 and buying a collectible gun, one of the authors recommends buying $ 2,000 worth of books on gun collecting and guns in the area of your interest. (I think our 'sages' here on the LF have advised us beginners of this on numerous occasions...).

2. A discussion about the pros & cons of discussing in detail the fine-points of fakery and details of certain suprious guns. The upside of such discussions makes all collectors smarter. The downside of the same discussion alerts the fakers & boosters of the growing knowledge and increasing skill collectors gain in spotting not-legit pieces...which then, it is speculated, will only drive these "craftsmen" to make better pieces that are even harder to spot. The author then speculates to a day in which even the experts would not be able to detect such masterly-crafted pieces...

(This scenario seems to be in-line with cautions Tom A. has posted, peviously, about not wanting to reveal (in public) too many details about boosted/faked Navy pieces he has run acorss...)

Great readings...nevertheless...!

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

11-07-2003, 08:55 PM	#1
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Articles on Gun Fakery... Mr. Curt Jensen just posted a couple of great articles written about the business of gun fakery on Jan Still's forum : http://www.gunboards.com/luger/default.asp Thought folks here might appreciate reading these articles, if they did not see the links on Jan's site : http://www.armchairgunshow.com/fake.htm http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/roadsh...rms/index.html Regards, Pete...

11-07-2003, 11:06 PM	#2
CG of MP User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: CCCPalifornia Posts: 25 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Simply excellent... I am AMAZED that PBS has anything about evil GUNS on their site. Very cool. This is good stuff Pete, in the Garand community, faked stoks with new cartouche stamps are a REAL problem for collectors and its created firestorms on other boards. Thanks again. Charles __________________ Charles of MemorablePlaces Consulting -- charles@memorableplaces.com Webmaster for: Jardine's Custom 1911 handguns Valtro USA Nor-Cal Precision Jerry Rice Riflesmith Tactical Intervention Specialists CMP (some content not webmaster) The M1 Garand - An American Companion In Three Wars

11-10-2003, 12:13 PM	#3
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	The two points in the article that stand out in my reading are : 1. Rather than taking your first $ 2,000 and buying a collectible gun, one of the authors recommends buying $ 2,000 worth of books on gun collecting and guns in the area of your interest. (I think our 'sages' here on the LF have advised us beginners of this on numerous occasions...). 2. A discussion about the pros & cons of discussing in detail the fine-points of fakery and details of certain suprious guns. The upside of such discussions makes all collectors smarter. The downside of the same discussion alerts the fakers & boosters of the growing knowledge and increasing skill collectors gain in spotting not-legit pieces...which then, it is speculated, will only drive these "craftsmen" to make better pieces that are even harder to spot. The author then speculates to a day in which even the experts would not be able to detect such masterly-crafted pieces... (This scenario seems to be in-line with cautions Tom A. has posted, peviously, about not wanting to reveal (in public) too many details about boosted/faked Navy pieces he has run acorss...) Great readings...nevertheless...! Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />