Values of these Lugers?

[mmiller]

My uncle has gotten these two lugers as part of an estate settlement. I am going to buy them but I am not sure of what to offer him. If someone has any ideas on the approximate value I would appreciate it. He is only going to charge me the at cost value not the full retail value. Also, any ideas on why the 1937 has a threaded barrel and can that be fixed/replaced?
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Thanks in advance.

Mike

[John Sabato]

It appears that the barrels on both guns have been replaced. Neither barrel looks original to the gun it is mounted on.

This means that their collector value has been lost. The fall into the "shooter class" and due to their condition I would venture a value of $400 to $550 dollars as shooters.

The barrel with the threads on the end appears to have been custom made to accept a sound suppressor, commonly referred to, although incorrectly, as a silencer. This barrel could be replaced by a luger qualified gunsmith to make it a regular shooter again... shooting it without a front sight would be fruitless unless you were shooting at man-size targets inside a room... (I hope you never have to do that).

Both guns should make great shooters since you won't have to worry about losing collector value due to a parts breakage.

The threaded barrel, if removed properly by a gunsmith, could be sold to someone who would be interested in legally mounting a sound suppressor to help reduce your cost on the new barrel.

The gun in the bottom photo with the front sight and grips with a target symbol on them is apparently an East German rework for the VOPO (Volks Polizei) and a recent import. That may also be the origin of the second gun... but hard to tell since the barrel has been changed to a custom and the photos are a little dark.

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