06/29 Swiss Luger

pisto · 11-28-2004, 11:43 AM

Hello,
a few days ago I got a new Swiss Luger which I want to introduce here. Brown Grip variaton made from 57 000 to approx. 65 000 (Rutsch)
Serial number is 59 998.
mag base is proofed with Swiss cross.
Manufacture date is 11.40

...post edited to provide display of the photos instead of just links...Admin-JS)

Pete Ebbink · 11-28-2004, 01:41 PM

...two more photos of Roland's new Luger...Admin-JS)

------------added by Admin so the photos would be together...-----------

Hi Roland,

Congratulations on your new M1929 Luger rig purchase ! A very beautiful pistol, indeed ! <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" />

How is the bore's condition ?

I especially like that the holster date is identical to the luger's date...

Thanks for sharing your photos with us !

p.s.

How does this one shoot...???

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

pisto · 11-28-2004, 02:49 PM

Pete, the bore cndition is like expected - I would say near mint! The only thing is the wearing on the sideplate - but I can live with that!
Unfortunatly I donÃ?Â´t like to shoot with my collectable guns and IÃ?Â´m not the best in shooting practise - but the trigger function is very dry and accurate, quite better than German army lugers I would say.

Dean762 · 11-28-2004, 04:01 PM

Hi Pisto and congrats on the new baby. Would you mind me being nosey and asking where you purchased the gun?

Dean

G.T. · 11-28-2004, 06:47 PM

Hi Roland! What is the ammo you have in the picture?? Is is steel cased .30 ? Looks neat, nice unit! Best to you, til...lat'r...GT

ToggleTop · 11-28-2004, 09:28 PM

Hallo Roland,

Thank you for posting your pistol. You have a very nice original rig. It is a wonderful pistol and appears to have been well taken care of. The Swiss were very innovative with the changes they made.

Viele GrÃ?Â¼sse,

Pete Ebbink · 11-29-2004, 05:38 PM

Roland,

If you have any luck finding "extra" shoulder straps for Swiss holsters, please let me know as a few LF members are looking for some...that is after you satisfy your own needs for any straps you may be missing... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

pisto · 11-30-2004, 03:34 PM

Hello, nice to find you so interested in my new Swiss Luger - makes much fun to share that pics with you - why canÃ?Â´t we meet together and have a cup of coffe ( ore German beer) while talking about all that guns.
G.T. the ammo is made in 1943 and it is Aluminium cased ammunition - did inroduce the ammo a year ago ore so in this place already.
Schweizerische Eidgenossenschaft; M+F Thun
"Ayional HÃ?Â¼lse"- is the red word on the ammo box
which is the meaning of aluminium case - a forum member told me.
Dean726
Have had good luck to aquire the gun from people I know for many years.
Toggle Top
thanks a lot for the compliments - I think those Swiss lugers are still available in that nice condition and I be the one collecting more the condition of a gun instead of a rare example in a fair condition. Therefore I think it is a kind of money investment to spend it like this.
Pete,
will check for schoulder straps indeed! Now that I know it I keep my eyes open over here!
Right now I have a Swiss brass cleaning kit left which I can sell if anybody is interested.

(Added by Moderator : Link to Roland's item for sale
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...PageName=WDVW)

Guisan · 12-05-2004, 12:30 PM

Avional is Avion for airplane and al for aluminum, to save on brass this type of case was used for the Patr 03,41 and very limited GP11.
Production went on till shortly after WWII.

Thanks,
Guisan.

pisto · 12-05-2004, 04:32 PM

Guisian, thanks for the update!
Just a theorie:
I thought Aluminium could be probably more desireable than brass and they made the cases out of AL because of the weight...

Guisan · 12-06-2004, 04:52 PM

Roland a nice other example is the use of aluminum muzzle caps for the Swiss rifles during the war, same reason.

Guisan.

John Sabato · 12-07-2004, 11:23 AM

I edited both Roland and Pete's initial postings to display the photos instead of just the links...

11-28-2004, 11:43 AM	#1
pisto User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 228 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	06/29 Swiss Luger Hello, a few days ago I got a new Swiss Luger which I want to introduce here. Brown Grip variaton made from 57 000 to approx. 65 000 (Rutsch) Serial number is 59 998. mag base is proofed with Swiss cross. Manufacture date is 11.40 ...post edited to provide display of the photos instead of just links...Admin-JS)

11-28-2004, 09:28 PM	#6
ToggleTop User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: TN Posts: 297 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hallo Roland, Thank you for posting your pistol. You have a very nice original rig. It is a wonderful pistol and appears to have been well taken care of. The Swiss were very innovative with the changes they made. Viele GrÃ?Â¼sse, __________________ *********************** ToggleTop************* JustHappenToLoveLugers *************************

12-05-2004, 12:30 PM	#9
Guisan User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 112 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Avional is Avion for airplane and al for aluminum, to save on brass this type of case was used for the Patr 03,41 and very limited GP11. Production went on till shortly after WWII. Thanks, Guisan. __________________ Fight to your last cartridge, then fight with your bayonets. No surrender. Fight to the death. --Gen. Henri Guisan, Switzerland, July '40

12-06-2004, 04:52 PM	#11
Guisan User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 112 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Roland a nice other example is the use of aluminum muzzle caps for the Swiss rifles during the war, same reason. Guisan. __________________ Fight to your last cartridge, then fight with your bayonets. No surrender. Fight to the death. --Gen. Henri Guisan, Switzerland, July '40

12-07-2004, 11:23 AM	#12
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	I edited both Roland and Pete's initial postings to display the photos instead of just the links... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

11-28-2004, 01:41 PM	#2
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	...two more photos of Roland's new Luger...Admin-JS) ------------added by Admin so the photos would be together...----------- Hi Roland, Congratulations on your new M1929 Luger rig purchase ! A very beautiful pistol, indeed ! <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" /> How is the bore's condition ? I especially like that the holster date is identical to the luger's date... Thanks for sharing your photos with us ! p.s. How does this one shoot...??? Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

11-28-2004, 02:49 PM	#3
pisto User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 228 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Pete, the bore cndition is like expected - I would say near mint! The only thing is the wearing on the sideplate - but I can live with that! Unfortunatly I donÃ?Â´t like to shoot with my collectable guns and IÃ?Â´m not the best in shooting practise - but the trigger function is very dry and accurate, quite better than German army lugers I would say.

11-28-2004, 04:01 PM	#4
Dean762 User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 72 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi Pisto and congrats on the new baby. Would you mind me being nosey and asking where you purchased the gun? Dean

11-28-2004, 06:47 PM	#5
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,507 Thanks: 1,318 Thanked 3,653 Times in 1,004 Posts	Hi Roland! What is the ammo you have in the picture?? Is is steel cased .30 ? Looks neat, nice unit! Best to you, til...lat'r...GT

11-29-2004, 05:38 PM	#7
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Roland, If you have any luck finding "extra" shoulder straps for Swiss holsters, please let me know as a few LF members are looking for some...that is after you satisfy your own needs for any straps you may be missing... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

11-30-2004, 03:34 PM	#8
pisto User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 228 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hello, nice to find you so interested in my new Swiss Luger - makes much fun to share that pics with you - why canÃ?Â´t we meet together and have a cup of coffe ( ore German beer) while talking about all that guns. G.T. the ammo is made in 1943 and it is Aluminium cased ammunition - did inroduce the ammo a year ago ore so in this place already. Schweizerische Eidgenossenschaft; M+F Thun "Ayional HÃ?Â¼lse"- is the red word on the ammo box which is the meaning of aluminium case - a forum member told me. Dean726 Have had good luck to aquire the gun from people I know for many years. Toggle Top thanks a lot for the compliments - I think those Swiss lugers are still available in that nice condition and I be the one collecting more the condition of a gun instead of a rare example in a fair condition. Therefore I think it is a kind of money investment to spend it like this. Pete, will check for schoulder straps indeed! Now that I know it I keep my eyes open over here! Right now I have a Swiss brass cleaning kit left which I can sell if anybody is interested. (Added by Moderator : Link to Roland's item for sale http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...PageName=WDVW)

12-05-2004, 04:32 PM	#10
pisto User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 228 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Guisian, thanks for the update! Just a theorie: I thought Aluminium could be probably more desireable than brass and they made the cases out of AL because of the weight...