A simple question...

kidvett · 08-17-2003, 02:45 AM

Just a simple question to get everybody opinion on the subject....

Luger pistol has small surface scattered rust spots...Leave as is OR gently remove with 0000 steel wool

kidvett

Ron Wood · 08-17-2003, 04:09 AM

I remove them, or at least reduce them, with 0000 steel wool and gun oil, gently as you stated. For heavier encrustations, I use a flattened brass rod or an empty cartridge case to scrape down the rust without damaging the metal or the blue. The brass traces left on the blue can then be removed with the 0000 steel wool/oil. Gently applied, both processes will not harm a rust blue finish. It stops the active rust and leaves the finish looking much better, although not restored to original.
I consider such treatment to be maintenance and not "boosting". If I am wrong, break out the horsewhip.

Lugerdoc · 08-17-2003, 09:31 AM

Kidvet, I generally remove any active rust, particularly under the grips, from Rust Blued PO8s with a stainless steel brush and solvent. This will stop the rusting, if then coated with a liberal coating of Rig, or other gun grease. TH

trigger643 · 08-17-2003, 02:20 PM

I second the above. I also use 0000 steel wool. if the rust is scaley, I also use a brass punch to GENTLY scrape off. I have found nothing better than Breakfree CLP Oil and Tetra gun grease as a cleaner and preservative/protector. I use the CLP during the removal process, then liberally coat the weapon with Tetra (liberally applied with a patch). Rig is equal to the task. The worst you can do is remove too much. many finishes are ruined because someone will get to enthusiastic about removing a few speckles of rust and take a good chunk of bluing with it.

Marvin · 08-19-2003, 09:32 AM

Hello All,

Lugerdoc has has the one of the best ways to remove active rust with the stainless steel brush and solvent. After this treatment, I use Bronze Wool in various grades instead of steel wool. The bronze will not harm the finish where steel wool will if not used properly. The only place I have found the Bronze Wool is from Brownells, and it is more expensive than steel wool, but worth the little extra on an expensive Luger. Just my .02 cents worth.

Marvin

John Sabato · 08-19-2003, 11:58 AM

Great to hear from you Marvin! Hope all is well with you.

Herb · 08-19-2003, 12:41 PM

I have a byf 42 that had a pretty fair splattering of chunky rust on the left front of the barrel. I used a single edge razor blade and oil to literally 'cut' it off, worked great. Hold the blade edge nearly flat with the surface to avoid scrapes and then just cut it off. First soak the rusty spot in oil, I let mine set overnight to loosen the rust.

saxman · 08-23-2003, 09:19 PM

Thanks for the tips. I have a Remington 'old army' .44 that has a nice brown patina but also has some flaky rust spots that I have been intending to remove. I like the idea of soaking them in a penetrant then using a brass case or punch to dislodge them. I also have a 1925 Colt .22 auto (pre-woodsman) that had some flaky rust in a few spots. I soaked it in penetrant then used Brownells brass wool. Dark spots remain, but that is far better than rust. By the way, what a wonderful .22 pistol this is, and it definitely has a Luger influence in it's shape.

08-17-2003, 02:45 AM	#1
kidvett User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 584 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	A simple question... Just a simple question to get everybody opinion on the subject.... Luger pistol has small surface scattered rust spots...Leave as is OR gently remove with 0000 steel wool kidvett

08-17-2003, 04:09 AM	#2
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,178 Times in 1,703 Posts	I remove them, or at least reduce them, with 0000 steel wool and gun oil, gently as you stated. For heavier encrustations, I use a flattened brass rod or an empty cartridge case to scrape down the rust without damaging the metal or the blue. The brass traces left on the blue can then be removed with the 0000 steel wool/oil. Gently applied, both processes will not harm a rust blue finish. It stops the active rust and leaves the finish looking much better, although not restored to original. I consider such treatment to be maintenance and not "boosting". If I am wrong, break out the horsewhip. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

08-17-2003, 09:31 AM	#3
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Kidvet, I generally remove any active rust, particularly under the grips, from Rust Blued PO8s with a stainless steel brush and solvent. This will stop the rusting, if then coated with a liberal coating of Rig, or other gun grease. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

08-17-2003, 02:20 PM	#4
trigger643 User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Murfreesboro Posts: 502 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	I second the above. I also use 0000 steel wool. if the rust is scaley, I also use a brass punch to GENTLY scrape off. I have found nothing better than Breakfree CLP Oil and Tetra gun grease as a cleaner and preservative/protector. I use the CLP during the removal process, then liberally coat the weapon with Tetra (liberally applied with a patch). Rig is equal to the task. The worst you can do is remove too much. many finishes are ruined because someone will get to enthusiastic about removing a few speckles of rust and take a good chunk of bluing with it. __________________ "There are three reasons to own a gun: To protect yourself and your family, to hunt dangerous and delicious animals, and to keep the King of England out of your face." Ã¢?? Krusty the Clown

08-19-2003, 11:58 AM	#6
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	Great to hear from you Marvin! Hope all is well with you. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

08-19-2003, 09:32 AM	#5
Marvin User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Upstate S.C. Posts: 1,132 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hello All, Lugerdoc has has the one of the best ways to remove active rust with the stainless steel brush and solvent. After this treatment, I use Bronze Wool in various grades instead of steel wool. The bronze will not harm the finish where steel wool will if not used properly. The only place I have found the Bronze Wool is from Brownells, and it is more expensive than steel wool, but worth the little extra on an expensive Luger. Just my .02 cents worth. Marvin

08-19-2003, 12:41 PM	#7
Herb User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Utah, in the land of the Sleeping Rainbow Posts: 1,457 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I have a byf 42 that had a pretty fair splattering of chunky rust on the left front of the barrel. I used a single edge razor blade and oil to literally 'cut' it off, worked great. Hold the blade edge nearly flat with the surface to avoid scrapes and then just cut it off. First soak the rusty spot in oil, I let mine set overnight to loosen the rust. __________________ Utah, where gun control means a steady trigger pull

08-23-2003, 09:19 PM	#8
saxman User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 301 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for the tips. I have a Remington 'old army' .44 that has a nice brown patina but also has some flaky rust spots that I have been intending to remove. I like the idea of soaking them in a penetrant then using a brass case or punch to dislodge them. I also have a 1925 Colt .22 auto (pre-woodsman) that had some flaky rust in a few spots. I soaked it in penetrant then used Brownells brass wool. Dark spots remain, but that is far better than rust. By the way, what a wonderful .22 pistol this is, and it definitely has a Luger influence in it's shape. __________________ You can lead 'em to the water, but you can't make 'em drink.