SANITIZED(!) Parabellum

Waschbaer · 05-21-2004, 09:40 PM

I just came across a strange parabellum pistol. The toggles are dished as on early models (purely a cosmetic alteration, I'm sure), there are no markings on the pistol whatsoever save the serial number on the grip frame and a crown nitro proof on the forward toggle; "DWM" or whatnot is completely removed as is the year of manufacture. Most of the pistol is an interesting purple hue, apparently from a mishapped(?) reblueing. The trigger, takedown lever and safety have a beautiful straw color to them. The pistol has been heavily buffed, though there are no dips where markings must have been at one time. The seller has it marked at 499 $, though he offered it to me at 400 $. I'm curious as to anyone's opinions on the advisability of purchasing said pistol as a shooter. It wears vopo grips and is apparently mismatched, for the TWO serial numbers I found in the upper receiver (the firing pin and forward toggle at "01") do not match the frame serial ending in 91. The stock lug has been removed, leaving a perfectly circular hole right at the bottom of the recoil spring. Would such modifications cause this pistol to be potentially dangerous to the shooter? So far I only have experience in collectable lugers, so shooters evade me. They are VERY seldomly seen in these parts, and I'm thinking of turing it into a custom job.... Thanks in advance for any replies. Thomas Platt

blayne · 05-21-2004, 10:03 PM

Price isn't bad for a shooter, and as a project, it might be worth it.

It just sounds like a gun that has been buffed to death...

George Anderson · 05-21-2004, 10:15 PM

A 1900 toggle train might be worth $400. Sounds like a weird outfit.

Waschbaer · 05-21-2004, 11:12 PM

I don't think it actually is a 1900 toggle, for it does not have the vertical bar on the right side, and each side of the toggle is dished slightly differently. It doesn't look like DWM quality to me, more like a regular toggle which has been modified. At first glance I was quite taken aback, but then I took a closer look.

Lugerdoc · 05-22-2004, 09:36 AM

Thomas, This luger sound like one created by aliens, probably Mexican, from Roswell in 1947. TH

05-21-2004, 09:40 PM	#1
Waschbaer User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 47 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	SANITIZED(!) Parabellum I just came across a strange parabellum pistol. The toggles are dished as on early models (purely a cosmetic alteration, I'm sure), there are no markings on the pistol whatsoever save the serial number on the grip frame and a crown nitro proof on the forward toggle; "DWM" or whatnot is completely removed as is the year of manufacture. Most of the pistol is an interesting purple hue, apparently from a mishapped(?) reblueing. The trigger, takedown lever and safety have a beautiful straw color to them. The pistol has been heavily buffed, though there are no dips where markings must have been at one time. The seller has it marked at 499 $, though he offered it to me at 400 $. I'm curious as to anyone's opinions on the advisability of purchasing said pistol as a shooter. It wears vopo grips and is apparently mismatched, for the TWO serial numbers I found in the upper receiver (the firing pin and forward toggle at "01") do not match the frame serial ending in 91. The stock lug has been removed, leaving a perfectly circular hole right at the bottom of the recoil spring. Would such modifications cause this pistol to be potentially dangerous to the shooter? So far I only have experience in collectable lugers, so shooters evade me. They are VERY seldomly seen in these parts, and I'm thinking of turing it into a custom job.... Thanks in advance for any replies. Thomas Platt

05-22-2004, 09:36 AM	#5
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Thomas, This luger sound like one created by aliens, probably Mexican, from Roswell in 1947. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

05-21-2004, 10:03 PM	#2
blayne User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 34 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Price isn't bad for a shooter, and as a project, it might be worth it. It just sounds like a gun that has been buffed to death...

05-21-2004, 10:15 PM	#3
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,527 Times in 786 Posts	A 1900 toggle train might be worth $400. Sounds like a weird outfit.

05-21-2004, 11:12 PM	#4
Waschbaer User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 47 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I don't think it actually is a 1900 toggle, for it does not have the vertical bar on the right side, and each side of the toggle is dished slightly differently. It doesn't look like DWM quality to me, more like a regular toggle which has been modified. At first glance I was quite taken aback, but then I took a closer look.