Newbie 1916 Erfurt Value?

Firearms4ever · 07-15-2003, 10:05 AM

Hello All,
Not real familiar with these sweethearts, but need thoughts on value.
I am guessing this piece would be a low end collector piece or shooter. Eveything I have observed is all numbers are matching, has made a trip to the aresnal, except for the mags and holster. Holter is a 1936 w/stong proofs, one mag is aftermarket, the other appears to be nickel, with no markings. I have several pics available. This piece has been brought to me for possible sale, the only history I have is it belonged to the owners father. That's all the info I've gotten thus far. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks,
Mike
Note:

this picture host has limited bandwidth, if the pics become unavailable, I will be more than happy to email some or all, just let me know what type if ISP you are using so I can adjust file size as needed.

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Edward Tinker · 07-15-2003, 04:30 PM

Hello Mike, I adjusted the size of your picture, by copying it and placing it here. You can upload pics (180kb's max) here, if they are larger, you can do several things;

1. Make them smaller
2. [thumb] URL [/thumb]
3. Simply make it a link

Welcome to the forum!!

Ed

Firearms4ever · 07-15-2003, 04:50 PM

Many Thanks, the photo wasn't that large when I uploded it, but that host has been known to compress the image, the make it HUGE.
Thanks Again,
Mike

Edward Tinker · 07-15-2003, 04:57 PM

Mike, as you say, it was turned into a police gun, I would love to get many pictures of her? I colect the Weimar Police, does yours have the 1920 property stamp?

It has the sear safety, what about the mag safety?

BTW, I scrwed up the larger image when I made the link! Sorry about that.

Ed

Firearms4ever · 07-15-2003, 05:37 PM

Ed,
I see no other markings other than stated.
I'll send all the pics I have, if you need more, different angle, etc. let me know.
Do you have a broadband ISP?

As much as I personally would like to have this piece, I can't afford it. My father has shown interest, but I'm not sure how serious he is.

Mike

policeluger · 07-15-2003, 05:52 PM

you really have not given us much info too go on. But I have collected Weimar period police for over 20 years and perhaps I can help, bore condition would be helpfull, as would holster and tools, but shooting from the hip, pun intended, it would a minimum, and I mean a really bottom min., with a fair bore, go at least $750. Please feel free too email if I can help. Sorry I can't give you a better estimate right now, but with additional info/pictures, we could tighten up the price some.

Firearms4ever · 07-15-2003, 06:05 PM

Thanks, that info is helpful. The bore I would consider somewhat better than fair. It certainly isn't shot out. (by using the bullet method)
In fact, I was thinking about popping a few rounds thru her. How does a Luger normally throw the brass? I'm left handed and don't want to get hit in the face with brass!
If you will shoot me you email address, I can send you what I have and try to get more info if needed.
Many Thanks,
Mike

Edward Tinker · 07-15-2003, 06:15 PM

Mike, I don't have broadband, but the PC is on all day, so it'll download eventually

and I will make them a good size for you.

Just send any size,

Ed (e-mail addy below)

Firearms4ever · 07-15-2003, 06:19 PM

Ed,
Will do soon,uh, the boss is calling for dinner. Always a problem, guns, wives, guns.........

Mike

policeluger · 07-15-2003, 09:36 PM

I can be reached at collins1974@earthlink.net, watch your self a bit, depending on how you hold the gun, you could get a round coming out, but I bet it will throw 'em high and over your right shoulder....never shot a Luger left handed!....there is a lot too watch out for in buying your first Luger, a real learning curve, but we are here too help. Email me some pic and like I said perhaps we can work on tighting up the estimated value.

Firearms4ever · 07-16-2003, 08:42 AM

Ed & Howard,

The pics are on the way. The second set is a much smaller file. While the first is larger, it contains what I think is more info.
TIA,
Mike

07-15-2003, 10:05 AM	#1
Firearms4ever User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: United States Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Newbie 1916 Erfurt Value? Hello All, Not real familiar with these sweethearts, but need thoughts on value. I am guessing this piece would be a low end collector piece or shooter. Eveything I have observed is all numbers are matching, has made a trip to the aresnal, except for the mags and holster. Holter is a 1936 w/stong proofs, one mag is aftermarket, the other appears to be nickel, with no markings. I have several pics available. This piece has been brought to me for possible sale, the only history I have is it belonged to the owners father. That's all the info I've gotten thus far. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks, Mike Note: this picture host has limited bandwidth, if the pics become unavailable, I will be more than happy to email some or all, just let me know what type if ISP you are using so I can adjust file size as needed. Larger Image: http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-5/205533/Lugerb.JPG

07-15-2003, 04:30 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,927 Thanks: 2,028 Thanked 4,525 Times in 2,090 Posts	Hello Mike, I adjusted the size of your picture, by copying it and placing it here. You can upload pics (180kb's max) here, if they are larger, you can do several things; 1. Make them smaller 2. [thumb] URL [/thumb] 3. Simply make it a link Welcome to the forum!! Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

07-15-2003, 04:57 PM	#4
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,927 Thanks: 2,028 Thanked 4,525 Times in 2,090 Posts	Mike, as you say, it was turned into a police gun, I would love to get many pictures of her? I colect the Weimar Police, does yours have the 1920 property stamp? It has the sear safety, what about the mag safety? BTW, I scrwed up the larger image when I made the link! Sorry about that. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

07-15-2003, 06:15 PM	#8
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,927 Thanks: 2,028 Thanked 4,525 Times in 2,090 Posts	Mike, I don't have broadband, but the PC is on all day, so it'll download eventually and I will make them a good size for you. Just send any size, Ed (e-mail addy below) __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

07-15-2003, 04:50 PM	#3
Firearms4ever User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: United States Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Many Thanks, the photo wasn't that large when I uploded it, but that host has been known to compress the image, the make it HUGE. Thanks Again, Mike

07-15-2003, 05:37 PM	#5
Firearms4ever User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: United States Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ed, I see no other markings other than stated. I'll send all the pics I have, if you need more, different angle, etc. let me know. Do you have a broadband ISP? As much as I personally would like to have this piece, I can't afford it. My father has shown interest, but I'm not sure how serious he is. Mike

07-15-2003, 05:52 PM	#6
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	you really have not given us much info too go on. But I have collected Weimar period police for over 20 years and perhaps I can help, bore condition would be helpfull, as would holster and tools, but shooting from the hip, pun intended, it would a minimum, and I mean a really bottom min., with a fair bore, go at least $750. Please feel free too email if I can help. Sorry I can't give you a better estimate right now, but with additional info/pictures, we could tighten up the price some.

07-15-2003, 06:05 PM	#7
Firearms4ever User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: United States Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks, that info is helpful. The bore I would consider somewhat better than fair. It certainly isn't shot out. (by using the bullet method) In fact, I was thinking about popping a few rounds thru her. How does a Luger normally throw the brass? I'm left handed and don't want to get hit in the face with brass! If you will shoot me you email address, I can send you what I have and try to get more info if needed. Many Thanks, Mike

07-15-2003, 06:19 PM	#9
Firearms4ever User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: United States Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ed, Will do soon,uh, the boss is calling for dinner. Always a problem, guns, wives, guns......... Mike

07-15-2003, 09:36 PM	#10
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	I can be reached at collins1974@earthlink.net, watch your self a bit, depending on how you hold the gun, you could get a round coming out, but I bet it will throw 'em high and over your right shoulder....never shot a Luger left handed!....there is a lot too watch out for in buying your first Luger, a real learning curve, but we are here too help. Email me some pic and like I said perhaps we can work on tighting up the estimated value.

07-16-2003, 08:42 AM	#11
Firearms4ever User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: United States Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ed & Howard, The pics are on the way. The second set is a much smaller file. While the first is larger, it contains what I think is more info. TIA, Mike