Simpsons--Why so few???

Double O · 07-26-2004, 09:00 PM

Can anybody give me any idea why so few Simpson Lugers are ever seen? They were the - I guess Weimar - arsenal for many years, and obviously produced thousands if not hundreds of thousands of pistols before the Nazi's chased them out and gave the tooling to --- Kreighoff, wasn't it??

Like to have your ideas, or references to info on the subject.

Ronnie

Edward Tinker · 07-26-2004, 09:06 PM

Ronnie, they reworked a lot of guns and other things, but Weimar Lugers by Jan Still states;

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about 12,000 Simson Lugers were manufactured for the Weimar Army between 1925 and 1934.

no, there weren't that many made by Simson.

Ed

Dwight Gruber · 07-26-2004, 09:24 PM

Ronnie,

The Treaty of Versailles limitd Weimar Germany to a 100,000 man standing army. Simson was given the exclusive contract to produce Lugers for this army. The contract was for 12,000 guns. See this link for more information.

--Dwight

Double O · 07-26-2004, 09:27 PM

Thanks Ed!!
I appreciate your promptness, and excellent answer. --- So I guess that the one I got this last weekend is something of a rarity? Well, maybe just not commonly seen??
Does this look like the proper mag? It matches the s/n

Double O · 07-26-2004, 09:45 PM

I think I just answered my own question.---
The number style of those on the clip is quite different from the rest of the pistol. Plus, no "proof" mark. Only the "2". Must be an arsenal forced match, or something like that.

r

Double O · 07-26-2004, 09:47 PM

Oh by the way, Dwight----
Most excellent article and informative. What an interesting pistol you have there. A good case for NOT having a mint example. Else how could you even begin to trace it's past.

Thank you very much

r

drbuster · 07-26-2004, 10:25 PM

Dear DoubleO, a proper magazine for a Simson luger has an aluminum bottom, a nickel plated tube and an E/6 proof on the bottom.

John Sabato · 07-27-2004, 10:34 AM

WHAT are the proof marks on the bottom of the stock lug? I can't make them out in the photo of the magazine... could we see a closeup please?

policeluger · 07-27-2004, 10:50 AM

John...looks to be a standard set of E/6 proofs on bottom of stock lug, and a #2 police mag perhaps forced numbered to the gun, does not appear to be original Simson.

07-26-2004, 09:00 PM	#1
Double O RIP Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: High Plains of Texas Posts: 45 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Simpsons--Why so few??? Can anybody give me any idea why so few Simpson Lugers are ever seen? They were the - I guess Weimar - arsenal for many years, and obviously produced thousands if not hundreds of thousands of pistols before the Nazi's chased them out and gave the tooling to --- Kreighoff, wasn't it?? Like to have your ideas, or references to info on the subject. Ronnie

07-27-2004, 10:34 AM	#8
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,153 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	WHAT are the proof marks on the bottom of the stock lug? I can't make them out in the photo of the magazine... could we see a closeup please? __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

07-26-2004, 09:24 PM	#3
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,893 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,288 Times in 426 Posts	Ronnie, The Treaty of Versailles limitd Weimar Germany to a 100,000 man standing army. Simson was given the exclusive contract to produce Lugers for this army. The contract was for 12,000 guns. See this link for more information. --Dwight

07-26-2004, 09:27 PM	#4
Double O RIP Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: High Plains of Texas Posts: 45 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks Ed!! I appreciate your promptness, and excellent answer. --- So I guess that the one I got this last weekend is something of a rarity? Well, maybe just not commonly seen?? Does this look like the proper mag? It matches the s/n

07-26-2004, 09:45 PM	#5
Double O RIP Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: High Plains of Texas Posts: 45 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I think I just answered my own question.--- The number style of those on the clip is quite different from the rest of the pistol. Plus, no "proof" mark. Only the "2". Must be an arsenal forced match, or something like that. r

07-26-2004, 09:47 PM	#6
Double O RIP Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: High Plains of Texas Posts: 45 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Oh by the way, Dwight---- Most excellent article and informative. What an interesting pistol you have there. A good case for NOT having a mint example. Else how could you even begin to trace it's past. Thank you very much r

07-26-2004, 10:25 PM	#7
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	Dear DoubleO, a proper magazine for a Simson luger has an aluminum bottom, a nickel plated tube and an E/6 proof on the bottom.

07-27-2004, 10:50 AM	#9
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	John...looks to be a standard set of E/6 proofs on bottom of stock lug, and a #2 police mag perhaps forced numbered to the gun, does not appear to be original Simson.