DWM Mystery Markings

Javelinadave · 02-01-2023, 10:38 PM

Any guesses what I have?
Marked S.W.II.306

Thanks!
Dave

Edward Tinker · 02-01-2023, 10:48 PM

yes police markings - pictures, full left, full right, full top, full front of frame

the II is throwing me off, but I'm a bit tired

Schutzpolizei Wiesbaden

Javelinadave · 02-02-2023, 01:00 AM

Here is what I have.

gunbugs · 02-02-2023, 04:07 PM

Isn't the II for the second district?

Edward Tinker · 02-02-2023, 06:07 PM

yes - but its kind of like - hey, when was 43xx r made - and the answer is 19xx

more information allows us to help you. Is it a Krieghoff or a DWM or a Simson or a Vickers?

Javelinadave · 02-02-2023, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edward tinker

yes - but its kind of like - hey, when was 43xx r made - and the answer is 19xx

more information allows us to help you. Is it a krieghoff or a dwm or a simson or a vickers?

dwm 1920

Edward Tinker · 02-02-2023, 10:33 PM

Ok - we have a FAQ in the new collector area - it might help you

DonVoigt · 02-11-2023, 11:18 AM

The District of Wiesbaden was comprised of 2 areas: Frankfurt = S.W.I. xxxx and Wiesbaden itself=
S.W.II. xxx.

Frankfurt is the much larger area/city and higher numbers are found than from the smaller Wiesbaden itself.

All to be found in Don Maus' fine work "History Writ in Steel".

The Wiesbaden area was occupied by the French and the stock lugs on lugers from Wiesbaden are often found with the stock lugs ground off; same as the state of Hesse.
This was a "requirement" imposed by the French during occupation, though not all pistols were actually "de-lugged".

Javelinadave · 02-11-2023, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

Ok - we have a FAQ in the new collector area - it might help you

Sorry to have bothered you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

The District of Weisbaden was comprised of 2 areas: Frankfurt = S.W.I. xxxx and Weisbaden itself=
S.W.II. xxx.

Frankfurt is the much larger area/city and higher numbers are found than from the smaller Weisbaden itself.

All to be found in Don Maus' fine work "History Writ in Steel".

The Weisbaden area was occupied by the French and the stock lugs on lugers from Weisbaden are often found with the stock lugs ground off; same as the state of Hesse.
This was a "requirement" imposed by the French during occupation, though not all pistols were actually "de-lugged".

Thank you! I appreciate your help. Mine still has the stock lugs.

spangy · 02-17-2023, 01:38 AM

[QUOTE=Javelinadave;346752]Sorry to have bothered you.

Totally uncalled for Javelinadave.

You have misinterpreted the intentions of one of the most helpful, knowledgeable members here at LF

Vlim · 02-17-2023, 11:07 AM

Good info. Except it is Wiesbaden.

Javelinadave · 02-17-2023, 11:59 PM

[QUOTE=spangy;346793]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Javelinadave

Sorry to have bothered you.

Totally uncalled for Javelinadave.

You have misinterpreted the intentions of one of the most helpful, knowledgeable members here at LF

Not my intention so settle down. Internet posts lack inflection so two people reading the same post may walk away with two different interpretations.
I gave the info in the thread that somebody else helped me with with so I thanked him. I run several forums and always help new people out to the best of my ability, especially newbies. I want them to stay in the hobby instead of posting to use the search function or redirect them elsewhere. I’m sure Edward is a helpful guy so please don’t take my post as being rude. That was not my intention.

Mac Cat · 02-18-2023, 02:43 PM

@javelinadave: Almost an acceptable apology. You were still very rude to a moderator who volunteers a lot of time to keep this forum up and civil.

DonVoigt · 02-22-2023, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlim

Good info. Except it is Wiesbaden.

I sit corrected !

DonVoigt · 02-22-2023, 03:29 PM

Javelinadave
you're welcome.
I think Ed's comment was to help you find the FAQ if you were not aware of them; they really help get a background and significant basic info under your belt quickly.

One misses a lot with even a good answer to a very specific question. Should you have a continuing interest in police lugers, Don Maus' book is a must; as is Ed's own Police Luger book.

02-01-2023, 10:38 PM	#1
Javelinadave Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: AZ Posts: 13 Thanks: 17 Thanked 24 Times in 5 Posts	DWM Mystery Markings Any guesses what I have? Marked S.W.II.306 Thanks! Dave

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Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,933 Thanks: 2,032 Thanked 4,530 Times in 2,092 Posts	yes police markings - pictures, full left, full right, full top, full front of frame the II is throwing me off, but I'm a bit tired Schutzpolizei Wiesbaden __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

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Javelinadave Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: AZ Posts: 13 Thanks: 17 Thanked 24 Times in 5 Posts	Here is what I have. Attached Thumbnails

02-11-2023, 11:18 AM	#8
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	The District of Wiesbaden was comprised of 2 areas: Frankfurt = S.W.I. xxxx and Wiesbaden itself= S.W.II. xxx. Frankfurt is the much larger area/city and higher numbers are found than from the smaller Wiesbaden itself. All to be found in Don Maus' fine work "History Writ in Steel". The Wiesbaden area was occupied by the French and the stock lugs on lugers from Wiesbaden are often found with the stock lugs ground off; same as the state of Hesse. This was a "requirement" imposed by the French during occupation, though not all pistols were actually "de-lugged". __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie Last edited by DonVoigt; 02-22-2023 at 03:22 PM. Reason: i before e, except when its not :)

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spangy Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 617 Thanks: 3,065 Thanked 1,057 Times in 429 Posts	[QUOTE=Javelinadave;346752]Sorry to have bothered you. Totally uncalled for Javelinadave. You have misinterpreted the intentions of one of the most helpful, knowledgeable members here at LF __________________ Whoever said that "money can't buy you happiness" never bought a Luger. WTB - Take Down Lever & Trigger Plate (#90) for an Imperial Artillery.

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Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,933 Thanks: 2,032 Thanked 4,530 Times in 2,092 Posts	yes - but its kind of like - hey, when was 43xx r made - and the answer is 19xx more information allows us to help you. Is it a Krieghoff or a DWM or a Simson or a Vickers?

02-02-2023, 10:33 PM	#7
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,933 Thanks: 2,032 Thanked 4,530 Times in 2,092 Posts	Ok - we have a FAQ in the new collector area - it might help you

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Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,988 Times in 1,205 Posts	Good info. Except it is Wiesbaden.

02-18-2023, 02:43 PM	#13
Mac Cat Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 727 Thanks: 2,091 Thanked 606 Times in 327 Posts	@javelinadave: Almost an acceptable apology. You were still very rude to a moderator who volunteers a lot of time to keep this forum up and civil.

02-22-2023, 03:29 PM	#15
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	Javelinadave you're welcome. I think Ed's comment was to help you find the FAQ if you were not aware of them; they really help get a background and significant basic info under your belt quickly. One misses a lot with even a good answer to a very specific question. Should you have a continuing interest in police lugers, Don Maus' book is a must; as is Ed's own Police Luger book. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie