P08 with rifling in poor condition

gcaivano · 08-15-2022, 06:06 PM

I have observed that when the rifling is not in good condition in general the p08 tends to group the shots to the left, then by lowering the pressure I achieve center groupings (In this way the bullet takes the rifling). Has the same thing (general grouping to the left) happened to you? Do you have an explanation about why it is always on the left with normal pressures and rifling in poor condition?

Vlim · 08-16-2022, 07:20 AM

Did you test this with freehand shooting?

Normally speaking they are accurate, even with a worn out bore. Sounds more like a shooter/sight alignment issue to me.

Norme · 08-16-2022, 08:37 AM

Barrels with right hand twist rifling shoot to the right and guns deigned to be used at great distances have sights that take this into account. Artillery Lugers, for example, have self compensating 800 meter sights.
Norm

gcaivano · 08-16-2022, 03:39 PM

Thank you, I'm talking in small distances of 15 meters (also as they have right hand twist tends to go to right not to left) .. also with the stock happened to me and changing magazine ... I'm reading and reading but nothing related ... of course mine's base on real experience after testing a lot of pistols with very poor rifling .. perhaps as you mentioned is my problem ... but with good rifling I have no problems at all...also after decresing the qty of powder I move to the center... perhaps high pressure and poor rifling get to the left with right hand twist...I don't know

LU1900 · 08-19-2022, 09:20 AM

Classic when being right-handed, due to poor grip, the index finger pushes on the left
This can of course have other causes.

08-15-2022, 06:06 PM	#1
gcaivano New User Join Date: Mar 2021 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	P08 with rifling in poor condition I have observed that when the rifling is not in good condition in general the p08 tends to group the shots to the left, then by lowering the pressure I achieve center groupings (In this way the bullet takes the rifling). Has the same thing (general grouping to the left) happened to you? Do you have an explanation about why it is always on the left with normal pressures and rifling in poor condition?

08-16-2022, 08:37 AM	#3
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,603 Times in 933 Posts	Barrels with right hand twist rifling shoot to the right and guns deigned to be used at great distances have sights that take this into account. Artillery Lugers, for example, have self compensating 800 meter sights. Norm Attached Thumbnails

08-19-2022, 09:20 AM	#5
LU1900 User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: FRANCE Posts: 908 Thanks: 41 Thanked 469 Times in 197 Posts	Classic when being right-handed, due to poor grip, the index finger pushes on the left This can of course have other causes. __________________ Best regards from France...Patrice https://www.fichier-pdf.fr/2016/03/1...nd-snail-drum/

08-16-2022, 07:20 AM	#2
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,988 Times in 1,205 Posts	Did you test this with freehand shooting? Normally speaking they are accurate, even with a worn out bore. Sounds more like a shooter/sight alignment issue to me.

08-16-2022, 03:39 PM	#4
gcaivano New User Join Date: Mar 2021 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Thank you, I'm talking in small distances of 15 meters (also as they have right hand twist tends to go to right not to left) .. also with the stock happened to me and changing magazine ... I'm reading and reading but nothing related ... of course mine's base on real experience after testing a lot of pistols with very poor rifling .. perhaps as you mentioned is my problem ... but with good rifling I have no problems at all...also after decresing the qty of powder I move to the center... perhaps high pressure and poor rifling get to the left with right hand twist...I don't know