Is the Stoeger .22 “Luger” C&R eligible?

Mrgunguy · 08-14-2022, 07:03 PM

As the title suggests, I’m wondering if the 1970’s era Stoeger .22 is C&R FFL eligible. I actually bought it with mine many years ago, but now that I’m selling mine I want to make 100% sure. I checked the ATF list but it only raised more questions than it answered.

Anyone know for sure?

Yakman · 08-15-2022, 09:17 AM

A quote from the BATF web site: "Firearms manufactured at least 50 years prior the current date, but not including replicas thereof;"

Jack

Mrgunguy · 08-15-2022, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yakman

A quote from the BATF web site: "Firearms manufactured at least 50 years prior the current date, but not including replicas thereof;"

Jack

All well and good, but they make all kinds of exceptions to that rule. Like, a million of them. My question arises from this statement on that same list.

“Luger, Mauser Parabellum, semiautomatic pistol, cal.’s 7.65mm or 9mm Luger, 4” and 6” barrel, Swiss pattern with grip safety and the American Eagle stamped on the receiver; made from 1970 to 1978.”

I think this applies but I’m not 100% sure.

Mrgunguy · 08-15-2022, 10:49 AM

Never mind, that can’t apply because of the lack of grip safety and caliber….

ithacaartist · 08-15-2022, 11:25 AM

I think the 50 year rule applies to a Stoeger Luger as much as any other firearm. Since it is a Luger in copyrighted name only, lists of variations of original Lugers would not apply. Anything made before 1972 at this point would qualify as a C&R, so you may have to wait a few years before a Stoeger Luger would qualify. Some of Erma's earlier model toggle pistols have phased into C&R status, but there are perhaps 20 years to wait before the later models follow suit.

mrerick · 08-15-2022, 11:26 AM

If the individual firearm was manufactured 50 years or more ago, it is considered C&R. The list is for additional firearms that may be newer. So, if it was made before 1972, it's C&R. You would need to be able to determine that by serial number.

Vlim · 08-15-2022, 12:49 PM

This means that post war HSc pistols are also C&R provided the manufacturing date is pre-72? That includes the majority of post war production.

08-14-2022, 07:03 PM	#1
Mrgunguy Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 29 Thanks: 12 Thanked 49 Times in 9 Posts	Is the Stoeger .22 “Luger” C&R eligible? As the title suggests, I’m wondering if the 1970’s era Stoeger .22 is C&R FFL eligible. I actually bought it with mine many years ago, but now that I’m selling mine I want to make 100% sure. I checked the ATF list but it only raised more questions than it answered. Anyone know for sure?

08-15-2022, 11:25 AM	#5
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,339 Thanks: 7,263 Thanked 2,564 Times in 1,362 Posts	I think the 50 year rule applies to a Stoeger Luger as much as any other firearm. Since it is a Luger in copyrighted name only, lists of variations of original Lugers would not apply. Anything made before 1972 at this point would qualify as a C&R, so you may have to wait a few years before a Stoeger Luger would qualify. Some of Erma's earlier model toggle pistols have phased into C&R status, but there are perhaps 20 years to wait before the later models follow suit. __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

08-15-2022, 11:26 AM	#6
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	If the individual firearm was manufactured 50 years or more ago, it is considered C&R. The list is for additional firearms that may be newer. So, if it was made before 1972, it's C&R. You would need to be able to determine that by serial number. __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

08-15-2022, 09:17 AM	#2
Yakman User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Indiana Posts: 119 Thanks: 881 Thanked 81 Times in 40 Posts	A quote from the BATF web site: "Firearms manufactured at least 50 years prior the current date, but not including replicas thereof;" Jack

08-15-2022, 10:49 AM	#4
Mrgunguy Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 29 Thanks: 12 Thanked 49 Times in 9 Posts	Never mind, that can’t apply because of the lack of grip safety and caliber….

08-15-2022, 12:49 PM	#7
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,988 Times in 1,205 Posts	This means that post war HSc pistols are also C&R provided the manufacturing date is pre-72? That includes the majority of post war production.